デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
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08-08-2015, 06:26 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 06:10 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 06:09 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I forgive you for calling me an asshole.

I don't forgive you for being a passive-aggressive twat.

I forgive you for calling me a passive-aggressive twat
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08-08-2015, 06:33 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2015 06:36 PM by RocketSurgeon76.)
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
Yeah, that's some passive-aggressive shit, right there.

If you think we just want to circle-jerk and have our own ideas high-fived, then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the rest of this forum. We attack one another all the time. Hell, I'm in a raging fight with another atheist in the next window of my browser!

Trying to Project (psychology terms generally make me nervous, but these two apply, I think) your inability to function like a rational human being onto us, saying that we don't like you because you disagree, is not only ignorant of the entire way this forum functions, it's just plain douchebaggery.

You might note that I didn't have an issue with you attacking my position as "garbage" (even though you turned out to be self-admittedly incorrect in the assumptions that led to that statement), but I did have an issue with you saying I was using Creationist tactics and refusing to engage in debate with someone who had "valid points". I was doing no such thing, and I promptly demonstrated why that was so. (Indeed, there was not even an opponent to debate, as you later realized, since the OP was quoting someone and answering them immediately.) I still stand by my decision not to engage with clearly-dishonest people who are not interested in an honest debate... which makes me wonder suddenly why I'm even typing this...

Edit to Add: To the rest of you: have any of you ever seen me shrink back from a debate with someone who was posing legitimate questions about evolution and/or showing at least an attempt at intellectual integrity? It's not a rhetorical question; if I do this, I should be called on it. As far as I am aware, I'm a bit rabid in the other direction, engaging on the subject with a bit more depth and vigor than is probably called-for. But if I'm in any way dishonest in my efforts, or if I simply attack someone personally when they have not warranted that libel, please, guys, I want you to make it known to me so I can apologize and change my behavior. It is definitely possible to get emotional and lose one's ability to rationally debate. I work hard at not doing so, which is the only reason I am continuing to engage with Blowjob, here, in defending myself against his libel, as I see it.

"Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?" - E. O. Wilson
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08-08-2015, 06:42 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 06:33 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Edit to Add: To the rest of you: have any of you ever seen me shrink back from a debate with someone who was posing legitimate questions about evolution and/or showing at least an attempt at intellectual integrity? It's not a rhetorical question; if I do this, I should be called on it. As far as I am aware, I'm a bit rabid in the other direction, engaging on the subject with a bit more depth and vigor than is probably called-for. But if I'm in any way dishonest in my efforts, or if I simply attack someone personally when they have not warranted that libel, please, guys, I want you to make it known to me so I can apologize and change my behavior. It is definitely possible to get emotional and lose one's ability to rationally debate. I work hard at not doing so, which is the only reason I am continuing to engage with Blowjob, here, in defending myself against his libel, as I see it.

I'd like to debate you some time about evolution. One evolutionist to another....and for the record I am not a biologist. Just a God believer who believes in evolution. Not all evolutionist are biologist and you suggested in error earlier in this thread.
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08-08-2015, 06:45 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
That is true, regarding the description of those who accept evolution. I was being sarcastic about the use of "evolutionist" to describe a biologist or other scientist. Didn't translate well in an internet forum, I suppose. It was not accurate, nor was it intended to be a definitive. Just sneering at the idea that "evolutionist" is a term used by anyone other than Creationists seeking to smear those who accept the findings of 150 years of biological science (and astrophysics, since they seem to conflate the two fields).

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08-08-2015, 07:05 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 06:26 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 06:10 PM)Chas Wrote:  I don't forgive you for being a passive-aggressive twat.

I forgive you for calling me a passive-aggressive twat

Your signature shows you are a liar.

If you "just turned the other cheek at[sic] let it go", you wouldn't be posting the "I forgive you" horseshit.

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08-08-2015, 07:36 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 07:05 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 06:26 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I forgive you for calling me a passive-aggressive twat

Your signature shows you are a liar.

If you "just turned the other cheek at[sic] let it go", you wouldn't be posting the "I forgive you" horseshit.

I forgive you for calling me a liar. Just because I forgive you doesn't mean I don't think you should be not be called out for your actions. It is one thing to call you out and another thing to hold hate in your heart.

I don't hate you Chas because I have forgiven you. However I'm not going to pretend your bad behavior did not happen. If you are proud of your record you should be happy someone is posting it.
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08-08-2015, 07:39 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 06:09 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 05:55 PM)Chas Wrote:  You are disliked because you're an asshole who makes many totally daft arguments.

I forgive you for calling me an asshole.

I forgive you for being a fucking asshole making daft arguments.

#sigh
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08-08-2015, 07:42 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 07:39 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 06:09 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I forgive you for calling me an asshole.

I forgive you for being a fucking asshole making daft arguments.

I forgive you brother.
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08-08-2015, 07:52 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
(08-08-2015 07:36 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-08-2015 07:05 PM)Chas Wrote:  Your signature shows you are a liar.

If you "just turned the other cheek at[sic] let it go", you wouldn't be posting the "I forgive you" horseshit.

I forgive you for calling me a liar. Just because I forgive you doesn't mean I don't think you should be not be called out for your actions. It is one thing to call you out and another thing to hold hate in your heart.

I don't hate you Chas because I have forgiven you. However I'm not going to pretend your bad behavior did not happen. If you are proud of your record you should be happy someone is posting it.

What bad behavior is that? Consider

I don't hate you, I just have a low opinion of you. Especially since you just pulled another dodge and didn't address the post.

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08-08-2015, 07:57 PM
RE: デユークギルモン 応える: 15 questions for evolutionist
My Beloved is a Christian and a biologist. She was here with me Thursday night, at the end of a week we spent on vacation together, as I showed her the forum. In particular, I showed her the Mormon discussion thread and several of the evolution threads... listening to her gasp aloud and make rude comments at some of the idiotic things that have been said by Creationists was a memory I will cherish for the rest of my life. Big Grin

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