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05-07-2013, 10:17 PM
1000€ fine for breaking religious law
I always hear american atheists talking about how Atheist europe is.
But we sure have some antique laws

In Germany we have a law that tries to make happines illegal on karfreitag (i think you call it good friday). well not happiness itself but all events like parties and especially dancing in public
and the government holds a list what movies can be shown in the public.
a group called "Religionsfrei im Revier" tried to protest this law by making an public showing of Monty Python's Life of Brian (wich if you haven't guesses it is not on the approved movie list Wink ). This group is now contronted with a 1000€ (~1300USD) fine. wich is funny because we also have by law a seperation of church and state.

But because atheism is no big deal here this didn't generate a big discussion.
But it should and i hope they bring this to the highest court to get rid of that stupid law wich is against our constition. i'm somehow ashamed of living in a country that holds on to a law of religious censorship in the 21st century
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06-07-2013, 06:40 AM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2013 08:40 AM by shiranl.)
RE: 1000€ fine for breaking religious law
To tell you the truth, I'm a bit conflicted here. We have similar laws here- but about 2 of our national Memorial days, and I find it justifible that you can't have a party or stand up comedy evening in those 2 days (especially when considering that they are both so close to our independence day, literally the happiest holyday in the year)......And there are groups (ironicly- religious ones) that protest those laws, so is there really a difference between religious laws that prevent "happiness" in certain days and national laws that prevent the same in certain days?
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06-07-2013, 06:04 PM
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I see them as all the same. What it is is mandating behaviour through the state to fit someone else's belief system. Some mandates make sense, such as those that protect other people (ie. laws against harassment), but laws that prohibit harmless activities such as standup comedy or the playing of certain films are irrational and immoral. I understand that people are sensitive about religion and fallen soldiers, but when has repressing free expression ever helped garner respect for a cause? Those who stop doing things that have been legislated against only stop because they fear the penalty, not because they have suddenly acquired great respect for the cause. And others will be encouraged to violate the law simply out of protest, even if they would not have done it before.

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07-07-2013, 12:29 PM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2013 12:35 PM by shiranl.)
RE: 1000€ fine for breaking religious law
preventing standup comedy evenings and playing "happy" films on a 2 grief days in the year doesn't seem to me irrational or immoral. Immoral and irrational is to have standup comedy evening on a day that the majority of the people in the country are grieving their lost ones....I think the term "repressing free expression" in regard to the subject might be a bit exaggeration
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07-07-2013, 12:52 PM
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It's no different than our blue light laws in some states, counties.

Banning things is banning things (in this case free speech and expression), I don't care what day it is. Shame them in the newspaper if it's so important that nobody watch Monty Python, but keep it out of the court house.

Whats next no porn in January? No meat on Fridays? No sex on weekdays? Illegal search and seizure Mondays?

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