12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
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25-11-2014, 09:20 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:12 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:52 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  The only thing I must say to that is that you can choose to be a cop, but you can't choose to be black. I can't sit down and go welp I am not black , but you can quit being a cop. So one is not a choice and the other one is, saying hating blacks is hating someone who could not help it, cops can help it. And I ain't dragging this out I stop here with this from now on lets talk about this issue.

What if I want to be a cop because i want to do good? Does that give people an incentive to automatically hate me because I become a cop? That doesn't seem fair that would be willing to put my life on the line for people who want to spam hate comments at me because they think im a bad cop.

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25-11-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
Gotta say, I think it's a tragedy that someone lost their life in this way (especially someone so young) but as this seems to have become a bigger debate on policing in general I'll add a few points;

- It makes perfect sense for the dispatcher to ask if the kid was white or black. The cops need as specific a description as possible when they arrive in order to identify the person they are looking for. What skin colour the person is is a pretty big part of that.

- In most circumstances I feel sorry for cops when people say that they have pulled the trigger too early. It's very easy to sit here after the fact and calmly rationalise how you woulda reacted. It's very different when you are faced with a potentially life ending situation for both yourself and those around you, and you have only a split second to decide how to react. Most of the people who seem to think cops should not shoot unless they have a signed statement from the suspect confirming they are intending to kill people would react exactly the same as those they criticise if put in the same situation.

- It's not always about race. Every time there is an allegation by a black person about a white cop it always gets stirred up into a race thing. To just assume that it is about race with nothing to back that up is poor logic.

- You have to careful what you believe when you read about something in the media. They will try and sensationalise a story to the nth degree every time (there's far less money to be made in a calm and rational account of the facts). Separate fact from conjecture when reading these things and check said facts in multiple sources.

- I totally agree that cops should wear cameras. It prevents either side from distorting the truth.

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25-11-2014, 09:41 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:20 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:12 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  What if I want to be a cop because i want to do good? Does that give people an incentive to automatically hate me because I become a cop? That doesn't seem fair that would be willing to put my life on the line for people who want to spam hate comments at me because they think im a bad cop.

Empty reply?

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25-11-2014, 09:44 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:41 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:20 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  

Empty reply?

Did you not see the bold?

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25-11-2014, 09:59 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:41 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:20 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  

Empty reply?

He added Bolding to reiterate that he wasn't going to discuss the topic further, though I love the point you made Big Grin

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25-11-2014, 10:28 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:44 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:41 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  Empty reply?

Did you not see the bold?

Nope Facepalm I totally missed that, sorry about that. Ok I'm done, just wanted to share my two cents.

(25-11-2014 09:59 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:41 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  Empty reply?

He added Bolding to reiterate that he wasn't going to discuss the topic further, though I love the point you made Big Grin

I'm too slow to notice stuff like that lol and thank you Smile

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25-11-2014, 10:37 PM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(24-11-2014 09:24 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  DON'T take the orange plastic tip off of the gun to make it look real, because people may think it is.....

In the People's Socialist Republic of Maryland with our strict gun laws my kids and their friends play airsoft and there ain't no orange plastic tip. They look just like the real fucking thing. They know better than to carry them outside the airsoft stadium. 'Cause they'll get shot and shit.

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26-11-2014, 12:35 AM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
What's sadly interesting, is that many people I've discussed this with, whether online or offline, seem to feel that the cop was justified. An adult cop is justified in taking the life of a 12 yr old kid, who was waving around a toy gun. His only option was to fatally shoot a child? It is interesting how many people blame the kid (for his own death), and defend the police officer. If any of us were in the cop's shoes, we'd be up on charges. The cop should have used greater discretion, imho. I know that the police have a tough job, but to me, this child's death could have been avoided.

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26-11-2014, 06:51 AM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(25-11-2014 09:20 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:12 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  What if I want to be a cop because i want to do good? Does that give people an incentive to automatically hate me because I become a cop? That doesn't seem fair that would be willing to put my life on the line for people who want to spam hate comments at me because they think im a bad cop.

Yolo, you're getting negged.
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26-11-2014, 11:26 AM
RE: 12 Year Old Fatally Shot by Police (in Ohio)
(26-11-2014 06:51 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 09:20 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  

Yolo, you're getting negged.

So I am guessing I need to reconsider what I said.

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