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07-12-2013, 01:40 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:21 PM)alpha male Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 01:11 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  So really…what is your point here…To demonstrate the Perpetual cycle of Information? The cycle being the more information you know, the more technological advancement you have, which leads to gathering of even more information??Drinking Beverage
My point has been quite clear - computers and other electrical things work regardless of the accepted age of the universe.

That may of been your point, but the graph you showed did not support your point in any way, which was my point. Am I going to fast for you, son?

Pppssstt. Computers and other electrical things weren't around in bronze age, when people thought the earth was 6,000 years old.
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07-12-2013, 01:44 PM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2013 02:33 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 01:21 PM)alpha male Wrote:  My point has been quite clear - computers and other electrical things work regardless of the accepted age of the universe.

That may of been your point, but the graph you showed did not support your point in any way, which was my point. Am I going to fast for you, son?

Pppssstt. Computers and other electrical things weren't around in bronze age, when people thought the earth was 6,000 years old.

Amazing how these idiots think that progress in a field somehow invalidates the field. OF COURSE the ideas of how old the universe has changed. Did Jebus tell us there were galaxies ? Hardly. In 1920 they thought the Milky Way WAS the universe.
Did they even know about penicillin in 1920 ? No. Did Jebus say anything about penicillin ? Buncha fucking fools.

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07-12-2013, 01:47 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:44 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 01:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  That may of been your point, but the graph you showed did not support your point in any way, which was my point. Am I going to fast for you, son?

Pppssstt. Computers and other electrical things weren't around in bronze age, when people thought the earth was 6,000 years old.

Amazing how these idiots think that somehow progress in a field somehow invalidates the field. OF COURSE the ideas of how old the universe has changed. Did Jebus tell us there were galaxies ? Hardly. In 1920 they thought the Milky Way WAS the universe.
Did they even know about penicillin in 1920 ? No. Did Jebus say anything about penicillin ? Buncha fucking fools.

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07-12-2013, 01:49 PM
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Quote: No but Raptor Jesus came to warn us about climate change and he went extinct for our sins

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07-12-2013, 01:54 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  That may of been your point, but the graph you showed did not support your point in any way, which was my point. Am I going to fast for you, son?
It certainly did. Computers and electrical things were around before the final age on the graph.
Quote:Pppssstt. Computers and other electrical things weren't around in bronze age, when people thought the earth was 6,000 years old.
They were around before the final point of the graph. Stuff worked as the accepted age changed.
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07-12-2013, 02:06 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:44 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Amazing how these idiots think that somehow progress in a field somehow invalidates the field. OF COURSE the ideas of how old the universe has changed. Did Jebus tell us there were galaxies ? Hardly. In 1920 they thought the Milky Way WAS the universe.
Straw man. I didn't claim that change invalidates the field. But, change during the time electronics have been around does invalidate Revenant's claim that electronics are dependent on the current age of the earth. That claim was clearly refuted, and now you guys are pretending that my point was something different.
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07-12-2013, 02:11 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 01:54 PM)alpha male Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 01:40 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  That may of been your point, but the graph you showed did not support your point in any way, which was my point. Am I going to fast for you, son?
It certainly did. Computers and electrical things were around before the final age on the graph.
Quote:Pppssstt. Computers and other electrical things weren't around in bronze age, when people thought the earth was 6,000 years old.
They were around before the final point of the graph. Stuff worked as the accepted age changed.

Ummm, yes stuff works as we continue our advancement in knowledge. I still fail to see what your'e saying. As far as your link I had to save it as a favorite so I can have a good laugh on days that I'm feeling down.

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07-12-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 02:06 PM)alpha male Wrote:  
(07-12-2013 01:44 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Amazing how these idiots think that somehow progress in a field somehow invalidates the field. OF COURSE the ideas of how old the universe has changed. Did Jebus tell us there were galaxies ? Hardly. In 1920 they thought the Milky Way WAS the universe.
Straw man. I didn't claim that change invalidates the field. But, change during the time electronics have been around does invalidate Revenant's claim that electronics are dependent on the current age of the earth. That claim was clearly refuted, and now you guys are pretending that my point was something different.

No I claimed that electronics (modern ones) are dependant upon consistencies shared across science. If they alter the age of the universe by as much as 1% it would be within acceptable norms however the difference between 13.798±0.037 billion years and 6000 is so great that it would mean everything in science is wrong. That is my argument.

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07-12-2013, 02:42 PM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2013 03:03 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: 2 questions for creationists
Have fun with some REAL science on the subject of radiometrics.
Joe Meert, Assistant Professor of geology, Department of Geological Sciences, at University of Florida, Gainesville. Dr. Meert shows where different radiometric methods return concordant dates for a given sample or region. If radiometric dating really does not work, one would not expect different methods to return concordant ages. One more example of consistency, that leads to confidence that radiometric dating is valid both in principle & in practice.
http://gondwanaresearch.com/radiomet.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/isochron-dating.html
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creat...chain.html
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html
(a Christian perspective) ... the fundies really ARE a small minority.
http://www.tim-thompson.com/plaisted-review.html
http://www.tim-thompson.com/plaisted-review2.html
http://www.tim-thompson.com/plaisted-review3.html
http://www.tim-thompson.com/young-earth2.html#number20
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~matthewt/yeclaimsbeta.html

This is where he got this junk.
http://scienceagainstevolution.info/index.shtml

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07-12-2013, 03:00 PM
RE: 2 questions for creationists
(07-12-2013 02:42 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  the fundies really ARE a small minority.
hehehe that sounded dirty in my mind

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