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14-10-2012, 01:20 AM
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
(14-10-2012 01:18 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(14-10-2012 01:16 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  I certainly place your authority above his!

Any chance you respect it enough to BRING ME A SHRUBBERY ???


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I'd like to invite you into my heart and accept you as my Lord and Savior.

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14-10-2012, 08:49 AM
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
I love the fact that I of C argument for Christianity's spread is Jesus's message, that its spread must mean it is true. Especially since it spread so widely so quickly (but not because of Rome apparently). Of course that must mean that Islam is more true today as it has the highest number of conversions per year of any religion. So Islam's truthiness exceeds that of Christiainity's? Wait for the special pleading in 3...2....

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14-10-2012, 06:00 PM (This post was last modified: 14-10-2012 06:05 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
(14-10-2012 08:49 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I love the fact that I of C argument for Christianity's spread is Jesus's message, that its spread must mean it is true. Especially since it spread so widely so quickly (but not because of Rome apparently). Of course that must mean that Islam is more true today as it has the highest number of conversions per year of any religion. So Islam's truthiness exceeds that of Christiainity's? Wait for the special pleading in 3...2....

99.99 % of the world thought the Earth was flat. They were all wrong. It's the Argumentum ad Populum fallacy.

Islam spread just as fast, if not a LOT faster. It's BS


And NOW, ladies and gentlemen, I present you with :
(100 % consistent with the Kalam Cosmological Argument).

The Origins of the Universe

In the beginning, the omnipotent God, Shelia, moved over the waters.

Shelia, the Omnipotent God, could make anything she wanted. Shelia did not care to be worshiped. Shelia was busy. She was the administrator god.
One day Shelia decreed, (being omnipotent), that any gods ever to be made would always be less powerful than herself.
The next day, Shelia decided to make "universe makers", who could *possibly* make universes if they chose.

Shelia decreed that in order to make universes they had to have at least 20 degrees of omnipotence.
Shelia, being infinitely omnipotent, decreed that "universe makers" MUST also have 5 degrees of separation from her, and that "universe makers" MUST be worshiped only if they wanted to be worshiped, and that ONLY universe makers may be worshiped.

Shelia also wanted to make another "almost" omnipotent god, named "Twila The Almost", (like a plastic porn doll .. "in her image"), who *could* make only 1 other god, and the 1 other god HAD to have 1 degree less of "omnipotence" than her, if she made one, and Twila could make only 1 other god also, with any property SHE wanted, but HAD to have 1 degree less of omnipotence than herself. So Shelia made Twila The Almost omnipotent god. Shelia granted Twila 100 degrees of omnipotence.

Twila The Almost, wanted to make 1 god also. So, Twila made Suzy The Sapp god, who had the same properties as herself, (except Suzy had 1 degree less of omnipotence, (99)).

And all was well.

Then one day, Suzy decided she was not busy enough, so she made John The Jerk god, with 98 degrees of omnipotence,

and things were well again.

John the Jerk decided he wanted to make a god named Hank - The Hockey god, with 97 degrees of omnipotence.
And so forth.
John the Jerk made Curt the Cute, (96 degrees of omnipotence).
Curt the Cute made Jason the Jurist, (95) and Jason COULD have made a universe, but did not, as he liked things the way they were.
Jason the Jurist made Pat The Perfect god, (94) who wanted things to do when he was not playing hockey, so he made a universe, BUT Pat did not want to be worshiped, and did not care what happened in his universe.
Pat made Sarah the Sassy god. Meanwhile Curt the Cute made a non-god hockey team, which wanted a mascot.
Sarah the Sassy god, DID want to be worshiped, so when she made a universe, she created one in which the beings NEEDED to worship their creator,
and also her universe would eventually produce rodents for the still longed for mascot.
Sarah also made a god named Yahweh, and whispered to Yahweh, that when they worshiped his wife, (Ashera), she would accept it as being herself.
Sarah The Sassy god created a Big Bang, and then they stayed busy. Eventually this universe produced Hebrews who worshiped Ashera.

And Sarah was pleased.

Eventually Sarah's universe produced rodents, and Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom was born, and Fluffy was sent for safe-keeping to Bucky, at school.
All the gods in heaven rejoiced, as the team finally had a mascot, and the meaning and purpose of the universe was fulfilled.
Alleluia. Amen.

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14-10-2012, 06:24 PM
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
My mind does not comprehend that. Time for more scotch.

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15-10-2012, 01:26 AM
2 questions to ask a theist.
Yay! The thread finally spiraled into silliness again! Huzzah!

Was worried I would to call The Church Police.

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15-10-2012, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 15-10-2012 02:27 PM by Cardinal Smurf.)
2 questions to ask a theist.
Yay! I double posted!

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15-10-2012, 10:39 AM
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
(13-10-2012 03:55 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Did our discussion start yet, IFC? I am not pressing you, just wondering if it did.

Well, I did post a couple things in my reply a few back - if none of that is of interest to you, I can take a look at what was discussed.

However, I would be interested (as you seemed to think that BD was making some good points) in what you thought were good points by him.

Again, though, there were a couple things I offered back in my reply - if those aren't good for you, let me know.
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15-10-2012, 10:42 AM
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
Bucky -

Those books? No? Not going to mentioned them?

hey, I'm all for doing my own homework on this, however, I would like to compare what sources you are usings...

unless your sources don't really exist (or say what you are hinting at they do)...
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15-10-2012, 02:33 PM
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Listen, asshole, my credibility here is well established, (unlike you). You're lucky I even talk to the likes of you. I have nothing to prove here. When and IF I finish writing what I write, it will be addressed to the guests, so it makes sense in a broader context as it always does. You have picked and chosen what you decided to respond to, here and throughout this thread, and now you actually have the balls to pick on one thing someone ELSE says ?
FUCK off you "so called 'christian' jerk.

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15-10-2012, 02:34 PM (This post was last modified: 15-10-2012 02:49 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: 2 questions to ask a theist.
(15-10-2012 10:42 AM)Idiot for Christ Wrote:  Bucky -

Those books? No? Not going to mentioned them?

hey, I'm all for doing my own homework on this, however, I would like to compare what sources you are usings...

unless your sources don't really exist (or say what you are hinting at they do)...

Listen, asshole, my credibility here is well established. Unlike you. You're lucky I even talk to the likes of you. I have nothing to prove here. When and IF I finish writing what I write, it will be addressed to the guests, so it makes sense in a broader context as it always does. You have picked and chosen what you decided to respond to, here and throughout this thread, and now you actually have the balls to pick on one thing someone ELSE says ? The fact you don't even know what's "out there" in terms of scholarship on texts and sources on parables, (or anything else), tells me you're in this WAY over your head here. So I repeat, NO. I will support what I say, with sources, just as I always have in ALL my papers. If you were REALLY genuinely interested in learning about sources and methods in scholarship about this, or any other topic your approach would have been 180 degrees different from the start. So, FUCK off you "so called "christian" jerk.

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