20 States Petition to Secede from Government (It's now up to all 50 states)
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13-11-2012, 02:00 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
(13-11-2012 08:54 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Tx is over 60K now...from what they said on the radio a petition with at least 25K signers has to be addressed by the president. That may be a speech I will listen to.
What the Texans forget it's against their state constitution.

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13-11-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
(13-11-2012 08:54 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Tx is over 60K now...from what they said on the radio a petition with at least 25K signers has to be addressed by the president. That may be a speech I will listen to.
It doesn't have to be the president who addresses it, just someone in the administration. Here's an example of what to expect:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/respons...al-service
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13-11-2012, 02:09 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
Maybe, just maybe, they'll have to draft new constitutions!

Anybody got anything?

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13-11-2012, 02:20 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
TX doesn't have to split from the US:

The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

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13-11-2012, 03:26 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
(13-11-2012 02:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  TX doesn't have to split from the US:

The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."
Article V of the Constitution provides for changing the Constitution without limiting what changes may be made.

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13-11-2012, 03:38 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
(13-11-2012 02:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  TX doesn't have to split from the US:

The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

As the Texas State Library and Archives Commission states on its website : "In fact, Texas received no special terms in its admission to the Union. Once Texas had agreed to join the Union, she never had the legal option of leaving, either before or after the Civil War."

While many believe that an annexation treaty gave Texas the right to secede from the United States, Texas actually was admitted into the Union by a joint resolution of Congress, not by treaty. And no such provision is included in that joint resolution or in the 1845 Constitution of the State of Texas.

The state requires its own constitutional reform before it can legally secede.

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13-11-2012, 03:40 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
Fuck this shit.

If they want to create their own government and country just because the democrats won... They are fucking bitches.

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13-11-2012, 03:50 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
(13-11-2012 03:38 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(13-11-2012 02:20 PM)Anjele Wrote:  TX doesn't have to split from the US:

The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

As the Texas State Library and Archives Commission states on its website : "In fact, Texas received no special terms in its admission to the Union. Once Texas had agreed to join the Union, she never had the legal option of leaving, either before or after the Civil War."

While many believe that an annexation treaty gave Texas the right to secede from the United States, Texas actually was admitted into the Union by a joint resolution of Congress, not by treaty. And no such provision is included in that joint resolution or in the 1845 Constitution of the State of Texas.

The state requires its own constitutional reform before it can legally secede.

I think they should cut off all their federal funding like yesterday.
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13-11-2012, 03:57 PM
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13-11-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: 20 States Petition to Secede from Government
You know, the last time they tried this shit they lost a generation of men, their farms and cities were destroyed, and they lost their slaves.

Just sayin'.

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