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13-10-2014, 02:07 PM
2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-seek...13031.html

The Islamic State group said it enslaved families from the minority Yazidi sect after overrunning their villages in northwestern Iraq, in what it praised as the revival of an ancient custom of using women and children as spoils of war.

In an article in its English-language online magazine Dabiq, the group provides what it says is religious justification for the enslavement of defeated "idolators".

The ancient custom of enslavement had fallen out of use because of deviation from true Islam, but was revived when fighters overran Yazidi villages in Iraq's Sinjar region.

"After capture, the Yazidi women and children were then divided according to the Shariah amongst the fighters of the Islamic State who participated in the Sinjar operations, after one fifth of the slaves were transferred to the Islamic State's authority to be divided as khums," it said. Khums is a traditional tax on the spoils of war.

"This large-scale enslavement of mushrik (idolator) families is probably the first since the abandonment of Shariah law," it said.

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13-10-2014, 02:58 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
Hardly surprising, although still incredibly horrifying. This is nothing new when it comes to war, but we would all like to believe that, as a species, we have evolved beyond that.
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13-10-2014, 03:47 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
In the OT Jehovah God allegedly demanded his people do similar against other tribes.
In the N.T. Jesus showed violence to the Temple sellers, said take 'up your sword and follow me' and gave one of the apostles a knife for protection.....Yet! also taught"turn the other cheek", rather confusing.
Islamic State come across as historically slow learners.
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13-10-2014, 04:00 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
(13-10-2014 03:47 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  In the OT Jehovah God allegedly demanded his people do similar against other tribes.

That's a good point. I wonder how many Christians would condemn the Islamic State yet defend ancient Israel for doing the exact same thing.

It's like Sam Harris said in his debate with WLC, "The only thing Dr. Craig can say against [the Islamic State's] behavior in moral terms is they are praying to the wrong god. If they were praying to the right god what they were doing would be good under divine command theory."

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13-10-2014, 08:54 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
It's only 2014 for us. It's about 814 for those douchebags.

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13-10-2014, 10:03 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
(13-10-2014 08:54 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  It's only 2014 for us. It's about 814 for those douchebags.

Actually it's 1435 AH (but point taken).

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13-10-2014, 10:10 PM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
Glad other people mentioned it... I know it's irrelevant but the whole it's 2014/any year so how can this exist argument is a pet peeve. Who cares the year, and it brings to attention, it's 2014 years since some Monk thought that was the year Jesus was born and tried to design a calendar based on it, well whoopity doo.

It's a central problem with religious texts even when people say they don't believe the elements that are in there. There's always some groups who can come from that and say their reviving the true messages... and be proud of that idiocy.

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14-10-2014, 07:12 AM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
(13-10-2014 04:00 PM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  That's a good point. I wonder how many Christians would condemn the Islamic State yet defend ancient Israel for doing the exact same thing.

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14-10-2014, 09:19 AM
RE: 2014...and yet islamic state justifies women and children as spoils of war
I think deflecting ISIS insanity to attack the ancient doctrines of Christianity is a little too close to ignoring the issue. The point is this ridiculously backwards war is happening now and it's an immediate danger. Deflecting it to the old testament and trying to call people hypocrites for opposing Isis if they hold to some insane old dogma is taking a dangerous road. Yes the parts of the bible which aren't obviously bollocks are violent and evil, but that is legend, while ISIS is a modern reality.

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