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15-01-2014, 12:27 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(14-01-2014 11:21 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(14-01-2014 04:32 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Yours is so simplistic and circular. I don't see any value in justifying a position based on the lack of something.

Hard to see with your head up your ass.

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15-01-2014, 02:51 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
"I'm not Agnostic towards religious claims."
So what is your position on religious claims?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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15-01-2014, 03:22 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(15-01-2014 12:19 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(14-01-2014 03:31 PM)Kestrel Wrote:  Hey slick, I'm a believer who's faith relies upon the fact that there is currently no evidence of God.

What does your "Odd Position" meter read on that one? Drinking Beverage

Yes that's pretty odd. Why rely on it? And why use the word currently if you rely on it? This implies that you rely on it but only transiently.
The short answer is that the source of information that I use to explain my beliefs, outlines the environment in this fashion.
But it begs the question of you that Hafnof asks above:
Hafnof Wrote:So what is your position on religious claims?

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15-01-2014, 04:50 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(14-01-2014 12:50 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  So you're an atheist based on the lack of evidence, but see no reason to believe that you can obtain this evidence? That's an odd position.

So you also believe in Zeus, Thor and the tooth fairy? Or are you just agnostic about them?
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15-01-2014, 07:08 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
When the options are:
1:> Magic that happened mostly thousands of years ago on hand me down hearsay.
or
2:> We don't know so lets investigate.

Why should we be agnostic towards millions of deities when strong evidence points to them all being man made.

hundreds of exclusive religions cannot all be true, but they can all be Bullshit.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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15-01-2014, 08:29 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(15-01-2014 12:24 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(14-01-2014 05:20 PM)sporehux Wrote:  There is a point where you have to stop looking for evidence for a position, when none has been found by anybody in the world over thousands of years.
If evidence arises then so be it.

Yes but why align with atheism? All it does is take a philosophical position which is pretty much useless unless you dislike religion. But even then it would make more sense to align with anti-theism.
Atheism is not a philosophical position in and of itself. However, it is quite useful in that it keeps one from being duped by religious-superstitious claims.


hth fucking moron.

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15-01-2014, 08:31 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(15-01-2014 12:25 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(14-01-2014 08:38 PM)Chas Wrote:  You completely misunderstand what lacking a belief means. I have no belief in any gods because there is no evidence of any.

I am not making a claim or staking a position. I am not claiming that no gods exist.

You have said nothing which makes me think I don't understand your position.
We can point a clown troll to Reason, but we cant make it think.

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15-01-2014, 09:09 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(13-01-2014 12:48 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Penchant implies it's a conscious thing that I'm misconstruing your vague definitions That you think they're quirky matters not a jot.



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15-01-2014, 09:10 AM
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You can lead an Atheist to water, but you cant make him add the cyanide (and flavour aid).

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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15-01-2014, 09:48 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(15-01-2014 12:25 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(14-01-2014 08:38 PM)Chas Wrote:  You completely misunderstand what lacking a belief means. I have no belief in any gods because there is no evidence of any.

I am not making a claim or staking a position. I am not claiming that no gods exist.

You have said nothing which makes me think I don't understand your position.

Everything you say shows that you don't understand it.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
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