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30-12-2013, 06:21 PM (This post was last modified: 30-12-2013 06:24 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:14 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:10 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  [Image: the-Wicker-Man-6.jpg]

Oh I got it, you hve no beliefs just a lack of a belief in someone else's belief.

I don't believe ANY such extraordinary claims for lack of evidence. You keep trying to strawman this into a disbelief in some mythical SINGLE PERSON'S claim.



Quote:This required no justification whatsoever.

Welcome to BASIC LOGIC, numbnuts.


Quote:You're so typical of the new breed of atheist,

"New breed"? I've been an atheist for quite some time, actually. Strawman much? Oh, wait...

Quote: perhaps just keep reading Dawkins/Harris/Hitchens (Best of) to remain convinced.

So dreary.

I haven't read much of either. Unlike you, I don't need someone to tell me what to think.

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30-12-2013, 06:23 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:17 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:13 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  [Image: card.jpg]

At least know what the word means before trying to claim yourself as one.


That's really quite funny, considering the actual origin of the word, of which you are obviously quite ignorant.


Quote:Since you're such a fan of links, show a non-atheist claiming agnosticism is based on what you know, and theism/atheism is based on what you believe. Have fun.

Oh, look, another pair of strawmen to throw on the Burn Pile.

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30-12-2013, 06:29 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:18 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:13 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  I already named similar groups in an earlier post. Such as an ethnic union, or an LGBT club. They don't have a purpose as an LGBT person or an ethnic person, but gathering with those who have a commonality with you...a commonality that is judged and dehumanized by others...is nice. If you had a characteristic that was rare, and had a huge stigma associated with it, would you not want to talk to others who shared that characteristic with you?

Have you never been discriminated against?

Even if the characteristic was not rare. As has been said, humans are social creatures. It's natural to want to be part of a community or group.

No idea if you're talking to me.
And this is why I think you are trolling.

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30-12-2013, 06:29 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:07 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 04:49 PM)WeAreTheCosmos Wrote:  I know its been said already, but you either ignore it or didn't see it:

If you are answering: "Do you believe in God?"
You have two possibilities: Yes (Theism) or No(Atheism)
There is no middle ground with belief

If you are answering: "Does god exist?"
You can say: Yes(gnostic), No(gnostic), or "I dont know" (agnostic)

Most here are agnostic atheist. We dont believe in god, but dont claim knowledge of gods nonexistence.

If you are truly agnostic, you still either believe in god or not.

I've already addressed that, I will guess you either ignored it or didn't see it.

If you're truly agnostic, your beliefs play no role. The state of being unable to know, or not knowing shouldn't have any impact of your beliefs.

Do you believe in the existence of god?
Its a yes or no question.

You can be agnostic about the existence of god, if you dont have knowledge of gods existence.

If you are agnostic of your own beliefs, you're an idiot.

What you said before, "I used to be an atheist, now I'm agnostic." Is addressing different things whether you agree with that or not. Its like saying "I used to be a racecar driver, now I have an ebony chess set."

So, do you believe there is a god?
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30-12-2013, 09:42 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:01 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 05:03 PM)Question Wrote:  You could say each individual gives atheism it's own meaning, but unlike religion it doesn't have a collected purpose for all members to follow.

You mean all theists have a single collective purpose. All theists follow a single purpose, while all atheists have their own purpose.

Fucken hell, got any other gems?

I would guess the vast majority of the atheists here are materialists as defined here.

You ask two Christians from two different parts of the world, what they're for. And you'll get a gem like "We follow Jesus Christ."
You ask two atheists that live in the same state, you get two different answers.
And hell yeah I have other gems, just keep talkin' dirty to me.

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31-12-2013, 01:02 AM (This post was last modified: 31-12-2013 01:12 AM by Brownshirt.)
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:20 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  You remind me of an evangelical I know who tells other Christians they aren't true Christians since they don't espouse their dogma.

You seem oddly similar. So, you fancy yourself a true agnostic and everyone else is simply pretending?

Our views are not similar at all , so drawing comparisons between Christians who believe different dogma is not relevant for me at all.

When you say "everyone else" I will presume you only mean atheists, and as such no you're not pretending just misusing agnosticism. The only place knowledge has with regard to agnosticism is that we do not or will never know beyond the material. The constant atheist request for evidence contradicts this ,or the request is not genuine.

(30-12-2013 06:23 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:17 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  At least know what the word means before trying to claim yourself as one.

That's really quite funny, considering the actual origin of the word, of which you are obviously quite ignorant.

Don't know what you found on Google, or how you brain managed to work that out, but knowledge and atheism were not part of agnosticism. They've all been assumed to atheists to attempt to give their position some semblance of rationality.

(30-12-2013 06:29 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:18 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  No idea if you're talking to me.
And this is why I think you are trolling.

You didn't quote what I wrote. Take some ownership. The ethnic group is still for someone who is something, not who lacks something. Your points probably convince the converted.
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31-12-2013, 01:19 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 06:29 PM)WeAreTheCosmos Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:07 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  I've already addressed that, I will guess you either ignored it or didn't see it.

If you're truly agnostic, your beliefs play no role. The state of being unable to know, or not knowing shouldn't have any impact of your beliefs.

Quote:Do you believe in the existence of god?
Its a yes or no question.
Only atheists believe this question to be yes or no. I don't believe and I don't disbelieve.

Quote:You can be agnostic about the existence of god, if you dont have knowledge of gods existence.

So either god exists or you're agnostic? What bollocks.

Quote:If you are agnostic of your own beliefs, you're an idiot.
If you think that's what I wrote, you're an idiot.


Quote:What you said before, "I used to be an atheist, now I'm agnostic." Is addressing different things whether you agree with that or not. Its like saying "I used to be a racecar driver, now I have an ebony chess set."

No, one focuses on the lack of evidence for a god, the other admits they don't know whether a god is knowable. That you can't discern between these says more about your pretence and ignorance on the philosophy behind atheism.
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31-12-2013, 01:25 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(30-12-2013 09:42 PM)Question Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:01 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  You mean all theists have a single collective purpose. All theists follow a single purpose, while all atheists have their own purpose.

Fucken hell, got any other gems?

I would guess the vast majority of the atheists here are materialists as defined here.

You ask two Christians from two different parts of the world, what they're for. And you'll get a gem like "We follow Jesus Christ."
You ask two atheists that live in the same state, you get two different answers.
And hell yeah I have other gems, just keep talkin' dirty to me.

Is there much irony in the name of this site being the "thinking" atheist? Yes.

Yes all Christians believe the same thing. No the variation between the atheist's mantra is unique to the person answering.

You sounds as you believe this. You all use the same arguments, for example you're all agnostics. Do some reading on atheism and then perhaps you'll realise there's nothing unique about the rationale applied by atheists. You all sing from the same hymn book. You're exactly what the world doesn't need more of.
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31-12-2013, 01:45 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
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These people reproduce, ladies and gentlemen, this is why our world, so lovely and beautiful, is doomed...

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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31-12-2013, 01:49 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(31-12-2013 01:45 AM)morondog Wrote:  Rolleyes

These people reproduce, ladies and gentlemen, this is why our world, so lovely and beautiful, is doomed...

That's what I was thinking, perhaps atheism is natural selection at work? You materialists and all....
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