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28-12-2013, 10:22 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 06:32 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  ...
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Yup, that's why I joined up.

Still waiting.

(28-12-2013 08:30 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
Quote:A three-year international research project, directed by two academics at the University of Oxford, finds that humans have natural tendencies to believe in gods and an afterlife.

The £1.9 million project involved 57 researchers who conducted over 40 separate studies in 20 countries representing a diverse range of cultures. The studies (both analytical and empirical) conclude that humans are predisposed to believe in gods and an afterlife, and that both theology and atheism are reasoned responses to what is a basic impulse of the human mind.

I coulda told 'em that for $50!

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28-12-2013, 10:43 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 03:09 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 01:06 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  I'm more agnostic when it comes to god(s). I can't prove Zeus didn't exist.

That is an atheist argument to me. I am agnostic and don't use examples of being unable to disprove defined historical gods, fairies, leprechauns et al to prove a point.
The inability to disprove a negative assumes its conclusion.

No, it doesn't. That is an illogical statement.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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28-12-2013, 10:46 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 05:54 AM)Chippy Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 03:17 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Yes but why? People don't join groups to show what they lack belief in, or don't do.

I've made the same point. It would have been more sensible that this were a skeptic forum because abandonding one of the major religions only to adopt some New Age nonsense is a bad outcome. Atheism/agnosticism will come from skepticism but skeptcism will not necessarily come from atheism/agnosticism. Skepticism is also something that can form part of a personal and group identity because it is positive. Skepticism--unlike atheism/agnosticism--promotes a certain attitude (of doubt and rational justification)--that can lay the groundwork for a worldview. The epistemic route to atheism is just as important as the atheism itself. If you reject religion for the right reasons you will not dive into some other superstition to replace it.

It is what it is. If you want a different forum, go find one.

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28-12-2013, 10:52 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 10:22 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 06:32 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  ...
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Yup, that's why I joined up.

Still waiting.

Good times! Big Grin

Your invitation must have been lost in the mail.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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28-12-2013, 10:52 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
I come here for the free snacks during happy hour.

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28-12-2013, 10:53 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 10:52 AM)Thinkerbelle Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 10:22 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Yup, that's why I joined up.

Still waiting.

Good times! Big Grin

Your invitation must have been lost in the mail.

Shhh! Don't tell him that! Wink

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28-12-2013, 11:00 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 12:36 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  1. Why do you have an active lack of belief? The position comes across as one who wants to be recognised as one who negates any form of god but not have to prove anything.
Using theocratic terminology is really not the best way to frame a question to non-theocratic folk.

Quote:2. What is the purpose of atheism?
Not theism's purpose, that's for sure.

Quote:3. Why believe evidence is (or will be) available to confirm or negate a god?
So are you putting atheism on the same level as conspiracy theorists?

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28-12-2013, 11:08 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 12:36 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  1. Why do you have an active lack of belief? The position comes across as one who wants to be recognised as one who negates any form of god but not have to prove anything.

2. What is the purpose of atheism?

3. Why believe evidence is (or will be) available to confirm or negate a god?

1. I lack belief in religion and although I highly doubt the existence of a deity or deities I can not completely negate the possibility of their existence. To say anything is certain is presumptuous and asinine! Drinking Beverage

2. Does a person need to have a purpose to be an atheist? No

3. I see plenty of evidence that doesn't support any of the conventional deities in their own propaganda!Drinking Beverage

To quote Neil deGrasse Tyson " God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on."

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28-12-2013, 11:11 AM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2013 11:18 AM by IndianAtheist.)
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(28-12-2013 12:36 AM)Brownshirt Wrote:  1. Why do you have an active lack of belief?
The same reason why you have an active lack of belief in Pokemon and Superman.
Quote:The position comes across as one who wants to be recognised as one who negates any form of god but not have to prove anything.
That which can be asserted without evidence CAN also be dismissed without evidence.
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Quote:What is the purpose of atheism?
The same purpose you have in not believing in superman and pokemon.
Quote:Why believe evidence is (or will be) available to confirm or negate a god?




"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further"
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Dreams/Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence
Wishful thinking is not evidence
Disproved statements&Illogical conclusions are not evidence
Logical fallacies&Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence
Vague prophecies is not evidence
Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence
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28-12-2013, 11:14 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
Is your avatar a masturbating robot?

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