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10-01-2014, 10:09 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 09:54 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 09:48 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  I'm just gonna reiterate Vosur's post #921.

I will cry myself to sleep tonight.

Humour me, tell me why. You have to remember I find your perspective as stupid as you find mine. We could just continue to assume the other is an idiot. To be fair it probably won't make any difference.

But I've already told you why. I get what you're saying, I have the entire time. I just think you're wrong.

Let's let that argument go. You say that atheists should live and let live. I don't entirely disagree. My personal philosophy is "you do you, just don't be a dick" (a borrowed philosophy, but I find it to be profound and efficacious).

Tell me, given religion's history and continued effect on society, should we just turn a deaf ear to the discrimination and bigotry that threatens to continue to infiltrate our culture and legislature due to ignorance? When it affects you or those dear to you, do you just say, "hey man, I can't know anything, so I'm in no position to tell these assholes that they're fucking up our world"?

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10-01-2014, 10:12 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:08 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 10:03 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Good. And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. In the ass. With a cactus. Wrapped in barbed wire. Smothered with Habanero sauce.
So bored of that. Most cacti don't touch the sides.

What does your momma use?

My momma would use a blowtorch to light the army of straw men I stuff up your ass.

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10-01-2014, 10:14 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
Someone who does not believe in anything they cannot see comes across some bones. They look closely to make sure those "bones" are real bones, and not made in Taiwan, of plastic. The bones fit together to look like
THIS
No one on Earth has seen a live specimen of this creature in living memory, so everyone says it must have gone extinct....until a recently dead specimen, with flesh still on an identical set of bones washes ashore (or however they found it; can't remember).
Exclamation Well I'll be damned! Not only did the creature ONCE exist, it still does...we're LOOKing at the corpse of one right now!!! Exclamation
Every true atheist on this forum is that guy/gal who doesn't believe anything they cannot see, who found real, live bones!! So when god-bones are found, we'll believe Gods once existed. When Poseidon's corpse washes ashore, THEN we'll believe Gods do exist.
Until then, anyone proposing the existence of Jesus, Allah, or Santa Clause, is just one more person some of us would like to see get hit by a bus with a giant Darwin fish painted on the side! Or a bus with a giant Jesus fish painted on the side for those of us who love irony!

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10-01-2014, 10:17 PM
3 questions for atheists
Seems this thread has devolved into sport.

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10-01-2014, 10:20 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:17 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Seems this thread has devolved into sport.

Well it is the melee.... Argue

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10-01-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:17 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Seems this thread has devolved into sport.

uh.....what thread....? Big Grin

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10-01-2014, 10:36 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:03 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 09:54 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  I will cry myself to sleep tonight.

Good. And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. In the ass. With a cactus. Wrapped in barbed wire. Smothered with Habanero sauce.

Classic double tap taq. Smile

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10-01-2014, 10:41 PM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:36 PM)sporehux Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 10:03 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Good. And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. In the ass. With a cactus. Wrapped in barbed wire. Smothered with Habanero sauce.

Classic double tap taq. :)

That would be a Double-Taq. Heh. :P

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10-01-2014, 11:13 PM
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(10-01-2014 09:39 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 09:34 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Do you mean that seriously?

Of course. By concepts I mean a creator, an eternal existence or random cause for existence.

I don't think these could be conclusively proven though. It would always require a leap by someone.

To be honest I think who who pretends they cjan justify any form of cause for existence is full of shit. Luckily for you I think you're in the same department as theists.

Unless you mean something different than I do by dismiss, I find that thinking completely misguided. Its not being wise or skeptical in its approach.

Why am I in that regard? Did I say I can justify a form of cause for existence? Has anyone here?

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11-01-2014, 01:04 AM
RE: 3 questions for atheists
(10-01-2014 10:09 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 09:54 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  I will cry myself to sleep tonight.

Humour me, tell me why. You have to remember I find your perspective as stupid as you find mine. We could just continue to assume the other is an idiot. To be fair it probably won't make any difference.

But I've already told you why. I get what you're saying, I have the entire time. I just think you're wrong.

Let's let that argument go. You say that atheists should live and let live. I don't entirely disagree. My personal philosophy is "you do you, just don't be a dick" (a borrowed philosophy, but I find it to be profound and efficacious).

Tell me, given religion's history and continued effect on society, should we just turn a deaf ear to the discrimination and bigotry that threatens to continue to infiltrate our culture and legislature due to ignorance? When it affects you or those dear to you, do you just say, "hey man, I can't know anything, so I'm in no position to tell these assholes that they're fucking up our world"?

Religion plays such a minimal role, that i would say the only impact is really historical for me.

i'm anti discrimination and bigotry etc, but that's got nothing to do with the philosophy behind my position. I say no one can know, this includes theists too.
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