"40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
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01-06-2016, 02:49 PM
"40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
I hear this one a lot from Apologists:

Quote:"The Bible was miraculously written. The Bible was written over a 1,500 year period by 40 different men as God's Holy Spirit moved through them. There is NO earthly way possible that so many men (most of whom never met each other), could have written so many different books in different styles that all perfectly merge into one meaningful Book, but with God all things are possible!!!" source: http://jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/gods_word.htm

Quote:"Think about the above realities: 66 books, written by 40 different authors, over 1500 years, in 3 different languages, on 3 different continents, impacting readers personally. What’s more, this collection of books shares a common storyline- the creation, fall, and redemption of God’s people; a common theme- God’s universal love for all of humanity; and a common message- salvation is available to all who obey the Gospel and follow God with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength. Go figure, these authors had no Pony Express, no teleconferencing, no internet, no Library of Congress and no foreknowledge that the First Council of Nicaea would convene in AD 325 and actually select their little ‘ol piece of prose to be included in one…astonishing…perfect… harmonious…book of Scripture!

If you do not believe that the Bible is indeed the inspired word of God, if you do not believe that the Bible is of a supernatural origin, than we challenge you to a test. We challenge you to go to any library in the world, you can choose any library you like, and find 66 books which match the characteristics of the 66 books in the Bible. You must choose 66 books, written by 40 different authors, over 1500 years, in 3 different languages, written on 3 different continents. However, they must share a common storyline, a common theme, and a common message, with no historical errors or contradictions." Source: http://iloveatheists.com/about_us/bible-word-god

Has anyone ever encountered these types of arguments before, and if so, how can you refute them?
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01-06-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
Dear SD,

Take some time to read this entire thread, I guarantee many of your questions will be answered and you’ll have all the fire power to refute the BS.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...rce-thread

“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.”~Mark Twain
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01-06-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
Pretty lame, ask the Jews how the bible is one harmonious book.

They even mention the council of Nicea and have the gall to assert that their arbitrary and political voting was somehow supernaturally guided?

Then they say no historical errors or contradictions are in it. Facepalm

This level of sophistry is just a testament to how incredibly biased they are.

Just another religion zealot clucking about their religion.

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01-06-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
It's very simple to refute, the book contradicts itself constantly, the stories don't flow together at all and any real connection is easy to make. The later writers just had to read the earlier chapters, that's it. It's like fan fictions, that's what the OT is, it's just a continuation of the Yahweh story for a new audience and they change hugely important aspects of his personality and character to fit this new theme.

If all those authors in all those different languages in different countries contributed to one book and it was the actual truth it would make perfect sense and actually be astonishingly harmonious and conform to one basic God myth, it's far from meeting this standard, it's a total mess of symbology trying to mix with world history, some dashes of terrible science and moral ambiguity.

You can check out a list of contradictions here that are easy to remember so you can use them to refute the bible later on, you really only need a few:

Bible Contradictions

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01-06-2016, 03:11 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
It's amazing or it's people telling stories.
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01-06-2016, 03:22 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
(01-06-2016 02:58 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  Pretty lame, ask the Jews how the bible is one harmonious book.

They even mention the council of Nicea and have the gall to assert that their arbitrary and political voting was somehow supernaturally guided?

Then they say no historical errors or contradictions are in it. Facepalm

This level of sophistry is just a testament to how incredibly biased they are.

Just another religion zealot clucking about their religion.

Biased?
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01-06-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
Yeah and there's no fucking way Newton and Leibniz could have simultaneously discovered the calculus independently. Yet they did. Must've been God. This shit happens all the time in science and mathematics.

#sigh
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01-06-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
(01-06-2016 03:22 PM)SkepticalDaniel Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 02:58 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  Pretty lame, ask the Jews how the bible is one harmonious book.

They even mention the council of Nicea and have the gall to assert that their arbitrary and political voting was somehow supernaturally guided?

Then they say no historical errors or contradictions are in it. Facepalm

This level of sophistry is just a testament to how incredibly biased they are.

Just another religion zealot clucking about their religion.

Biased?

You can't see it? Anyone claiming the bible has no errors or contradictions is a zealot. They can't see reality staring them in the face.

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01-06-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
(01-06-2016 03:29 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 03:22 PM)SkepticalDaniel Wrote:  Biased?

You can't see it? Anyone claiming the bible has no errors or contradictions is a zealot. They can't see reality staring them in the face.

You wouldn't believe how the try to resolve the contradictions. I once mentioned the contradiction in Genesis 22:1 and James 1:13 to one of my co-workers, who is a Christian, and she said "Words have different meanings". Or sometimes the my pull out the Law of Non-Contradiction.
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01-06-2016, 03:44 PM
RE: "40 Different Authors, 66 Books, Different Languages and Continents" Argument
(01-06-2016 03:34 PM)SkepticalDaniel Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 03:29 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  You can't see it? Anyone claiming the bible has no errors or contradictions is a zealot. They can't see reality staring them in the face.

You wouldn't believe how the try to resolve the contradictions. I once mentioned the contradiction in Genesis 22:1 and James 1:13 to one of my co-workers, who is a Christian, and she said "Words have different meanings". Or sometimes the my pull out the Law of Non-Contradiction.

Which Law of Non-Contradiction? The one in logic that says you can't have both "A" and "not A"? What does that have to do with the Bible? The Bible isn't logic -- it's literature. A storyteller (and even more so multiple storytellers) can contradict himself to his heart's content. There is no "law" against it.
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