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11-11-2015, 05:17 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(10-11-2015 03:12 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(10-11-2015 11:41 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  It's funny how afraid psychey is to say what he really thinks.

You gotta feel sorry for the lad.

Morons claim to think but then can't prove what they say.

Don't even want accurate data to try to make good models.

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You mean like yours?

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14-11-2015, 01:36 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(11-11-2015 05:17 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  
(10-11-2015 03:12 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  Morons claim to think but then can't prove what they say.

Don't even want accurate data to try to make good models.

psik

You mean like yours?

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A GOOD model should be at least 13 feet tall and weigh around 900 pounds. Mine is too small and I am not going to build one that big.

But if engineering schools can do these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9S7RXD4GJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJ-4Oq5YRA

They should have clearly resolved the 9/11 issue long ago.

When and where have any schools done anything to address 9/11 besides that Purdue simulation that only did the top 20 stories of the north tower?

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14-11-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(14-11-2015 01:36 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 05:17 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  You mean like yours?

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A GOOD model should be at least 13 feet tall and weigh around 900 pounds. Mine is too small and I am not going to build one that big.

But if engineering schools can do these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9S7RXD4GJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJ-4Oq5YRA

They should have clearly resolved the 9/11 issue long ago.

When and where have any schools done anything to address 9/11 besides that Purdue simulation that only did the top 20 stories of the north tower?

psik

That highlights the point I've asked you about over 5 times with no answer. Look at those videos, with great motivational drivers for these models.

The first one, fun. These are young students and are driven to do such a model out of the joy of that model.

2nd one, for safety of the frequent earthquakes, you build structural models to see various structural factors that can come from it. It has a deeply strong motivator.

You never seem to quite get the problem of, what is a seriously strong high energy, actual people, motivator for your presumed thing that "SHOULD" have been done years ago?

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14-11-2015, 02:00 PM
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Continued:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LohYSjfA...D26338ECB6

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14-11-2015, 04:39 PM
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(14-11-2015 01:42 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  You never seem to quite get the problem of, what is a seriously strong high energy, actual people, motivator for your presumed thing that "SHOULD" have been done years ago?

The United States invaded two countries supposedly as a result of some terrorists hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings. Two of these buildings were supposedly completely destroyed as a result.

Our so called EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS are presumed to teach people how reality works. Engineering schools deal with PHYSICAL REALITY. If airliners could cause what happened to the Twin Towers then at the very least it should be a decent physics exercise.

At worst it certainly shows a criminal lack of curiosity on the part of people claiming to be scientists and engineers.

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14-11-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(14-11-2015 04:39 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(14-11-2015 01:42 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  You never seem to quite get the problem of, what is a seriously strong high energy, actual people, motivator for your presumed thing that "SHOULD" have been done years ago?

The United States invaded two countries supposedly as a result of some terrorists hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings. Two of these buildings were supposedly completely destroyed as a result.

Our so called EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS are presumed to teach people how reality works. Engineering schools deal with PHYSICAL REALITY. If airliners could cause what happened to the Twin Towers then at the very least it should be a decent physics exercise.

At worst it certainly shows a criminal lack of curiosity on the part of people claiming to be scientists and engineers.

psik

The planes did some initial damage, the most important damage was dislodging the fireproofing material on the steel. The fires weakened the steel sufficiently to cause collapse.

That's it. You keep going on about "planes couldn't do that".

It was a chain of events so obvious that you must be either incredibly stupid or not quite sane to not understand it.

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14-11-2015, 06:39 PM
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(14-11-2015 05:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  The planes did some initial damage, the most important damage was dislodging the fireproofing material on the steel. The fires weakened the steel sufficiently to cause collapse.

That's it. You keep going on about "planes couldn't do that".

It was a chain of events so obvious that you must be either incredibly stupid or not quite sane to not understand it.

Curious that you do not have to come up with a single shred of hard evidence for this fireproofing being knocked off.

I never even heard of witnesses claiming that ceiling tiles near the impact were knocked down.

A simulation eliminating levels 91 through 95 would create a 60 foot gap which is more damage than airliner impacts and fires could do. Apparently the people running our engineering schools can't think of such a simple simulation much less do one. It should be less complicated than thw Purdue simulation. Lower velocities, fewer materials, no fuel, what is the problem?

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14-11-2015, 06:46 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(14-11-2015 06:39 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(14-11-2015 05:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  The planes did some initial damage, the most important damage was dislodging the fireproofing material on the steel. The fires weakened the steel sufficiently to cause collapse.

That's it. You keep going on about "planes couldn't do that".

It was a chain of events so obvious that you must be either incredibly stupid or not quite sane to not understand it.

Curious that you do not have to come up with a single shred of hard evidence for this fireproofing being knocked off.

You're not even trying, are you. Google is your friend.

Quote:I never even heard of witnesses claiming that ceiling tiles near the impact were knocked down.

What the actual fuck do ceiling tiles have to do with anything?

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14-11-2015, 11:01 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(14-11-2015 06:46 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(14-11-2015 06:39 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  Curious that you do not have to come up with a single shred of hard evidence for this fireproofing being knocked off.

You're not even trying, are you. Google is your friend.

Quote:I never even heard of witnesses claiming that ceiling tiles near the impact were knocked down.

What the actual fuck do ceiling tiles have to do with anything?

Look dude, you and other people are claiming that fireproofing, which is rather light, was knocked off of steel on which it had been sprayed because airliners impacted buildings and created such sudden vibrations that the fireproofing came loose.

Now considering how flimsy ceiling tiles and their suspensions are and more massive than fireproofing you expect fireproofing to come off due to an impact that can't dislodge ceiling tiles?

You expect physics to work in ways that serve your arguments and not affect other things simultaneously?

My suggested simulation of removing 5 levels makes the fireproofing discussion irrelevant anyway. The fireproofing business is just about collapse initiation. Removing 5 levels would give us collapse. Could the top 15 stories falling on the lower 90 destroy them? That is the question. If they could not then who cares about fireproofing?

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14-11-2015, 11:10 PM
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