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24-12-2015, 01:18 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(24-12-2015 12:38 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(24-12-2015 11:43 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Congratulations. This might be the most coherent and well-thought out thing I’ve heard you say or ask. Bravo. Really.

YAWN

Sure, the simulation I suggest is consistently ignored:

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid896526

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Like the video said it was termites that did it, why they spelled it with an H I do not know, but for sure it was termites!
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24-12-2015, 01:29 PM
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(24-12-2015 12:55 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(24-12-2015 11:53 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I'm no metallurgist so I have no reason to think that the compression strength degrades linearly as you suggest. Think there are some welders here who might know though.
Hot rolled carbon steel beams and columns begin to lose strength at temperatures above 300°C, or three times the boiling point of water. In addition to the reduction of material strength and stiffness, steel displays a significant creep phenomena at temperatures over 450°C and loses about half of its strength at 650°C. The phenomena of creep results in an increase of deformation (strain) with time, even if the temperature and applied stress remain unchanged. (Jet fuel burns at 1500ºC.)

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24-12-2015, 01:31 PM
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(24-12-2015 12:56 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  
(24-12-2015 12:43 PM)adey67 Wrote:  ARROGANT and disingenuous it only concurs with your belief system you have nothing to offer.

Like climate simulations are all about belief systems. Laugh out load

You don't have to prove your belief system which proves it is a belief system. A good simulation would prove that I am wrong if I truly am.

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Climate simulations concur with what we are witnessing in the real world. I remember snow everywhere in the 1970s now in England we rarely see snow year on year therefore I can believe those simulations because there is evidence for their validity suck on that big boy
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24-12-2015, 01:47 PM
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(03-11-2015 09:48 AM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  It should be obvious to a 7th grade school kid that the lower portion of any skyscraper should be stronger than the upper portion to support the weight above and withstand the torque created by the wind.

Oh dear. Wind loading on a skyscraper does not produce any torque LOL.

It produces a bending moment increasing from zero at the top to its maximum at ground level. A multi-story building is effectively a vertical cantilever beam. And the lower building columns are designed to resist not only dead loading, but also increased live loads—which are much greater than on the uppermost columns.

That you misunderstand the meaning of "torque" indicates to me that you have very little understanding of engineering principles. Torque is a measure of the turning force on an object, not a bending force.

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24-12-2015, 01:54 PM
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I'm sorry to be such a hard ass on this folks but 9/11 was an international tragedy and a coup for terrorists and placing the blame anywhere else than Muslim extremists is to denigrate the memory of those who died both victims and rescuers. Its turning the whole issue into a circus and I will continue to oppose psik and his arrogance with all my might and also all those who share his insane conspiratorial views.
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24-12-2015, 03:39 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(24-12-2015 01:47 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(03-11-2015 09:48 AM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  It should be obvious to a 7th grade school kid that the lower portion of any skyscraper should be stronger than the upper portion to support the weight above and withstand the torque created by the wind.

Oh dear. Wind loading on a skyscraper does not produce any torque LOL.

Tell Scientific American

Quote:The 90-foot-long central core, formed of massive vertical steel columns that held most of the building's weight, contained elevator shafts, stairways and utility spaces, they said. The core's columns were thicker toward the base to support huge accumulated gravity loads. The outer perimeter tube, a tight prefabricated latticework with 61 14-inch steel box columns (spaced 39 inches on center) on each building face, provided all the bracing resistance against lateral and twisting forces from wind and seismic action. This exterior grid served as a moment frame, providing a large moment arm (of torque) against overturning and deflection forces. The outer tube bore part of the gravity-induced downward load as well as, they noted.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...wers-fell/

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24-12-2015, 07:35 PM
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(24-12-2015 01:31 PM)adey67 Wrote:  Climate simulations concur with what we are witnessing in the real world. I remember snow everywhere in the 1970s now in England we rarely see snow year on year therefore I can believe those simulations because there is evidence for their validity suck on that big boy

Then it should not be difficult to make simulations of the north tower collapse. It has only been FOURTEEN YEARS!

Where is a decent collapse simulation with data on the building provided?

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24-12-2015, 07:53 PM
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(24-12-2015 07:35 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  Where is a decent collapse simulation with data on the building provided?

psik

Quite. Please provide it.

BTW. Why are you still here? You never take part in any other discussions. Clearly we are not conspiracy theory types. We require evidence.

So why are you here?

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24-12-2015, 08:02 PM
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(24-12-2015 07:53 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(24-12-2015 07:35 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  Where is a decent collapse simulation with data on the building provided?

psik

Quite. Please provide it.

BTW. Why are you still here? You never take part in any other discussions. Clearly we are not conspiracy theory types. We require evidence.

So why are you here?

I have not said squat about any conspiracies and do not give a damn about any. I am simply on a mission to point out to the inept that they are so afraid of conspiracies that they would rather throw out physics than deal with the obvious.

Of course a decent simulation cannot be made without accurate mass distribution data and the NIST cannot even tell us the amount of concrete in the buildings in 10,000 pages.

People who don't even know what torque is worry about conspiracies. Laugh out load

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24-12-2015, 08:05 PM
RE: 9/11 EXPOSED
(24-12-2015 07:53 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(24-12-2015 07:35 PM)psikeyhackr Wrote:  Where is a decent collapse simulation with data on the building provided?

psik

Quite. Please provide it.

BTW. Why are you still here? You never take part in any other discussions. Clearly we are not conspiracy theory types. We require evidence.

So why are you here?

We tolerate him.

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