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16-01-2013, 07:14 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:13 PM)Diablo Wrote:  Overblown hysteria about gun violence and safety. Its not much, but at least there is a reason.
I meant 'rational, useful reason'.

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16-01-2013, 07:17 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
How about the easement of which one can acquire weapons and then use them for criminal behavior.
Or as an extension of that, gang behavior.

Or how about 20 dead under 10year olds.

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16-01-2013, 07:19 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
Or how about 11,000 dead due to guns a year compared to say, the UK's gun death rate.

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16-01-2013, 07:22 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:19 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Or how about 11,000 dead due to guns a year compared to say, the UK's gun death rate.
More than 99% of gun deaths are from handguns, so another "Assault Weapons Ban" is not effective. It wasn't the first time.

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16-01-2013, 07:23 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
America has a "gangster" culture. You can't compare it to Europe.
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16-01-2013, 07:25 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  I meant 'rational, useful reason'.

There is no reason, like that. It's called Democrats, or people on the left, liberals, etc., in America, compromising.

edit: Or rolling over, I think that's how they put it.

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16-01-2013, 07:30 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:23 PM)Ape_Linkin Wrote:  America has a "gangster" culture. You can't compare it to Europe.

You mean black people and rednecks.

You can't compare us; we are way too diverse.

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16-01-2013, 07:43 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
Sterotype much? Ignorance.
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16-01-2013, 08:13 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:07 PM)Diablo Wrote:  Weren't weapons like the AR15 banned up to 2004? Why is everyone acting like they are crucial to their survival now?

Even if we ignore the safety issue, which I agree is often completely overblown. What is the argument for allowing weapons like the AR15?
Not the 2nd amendment either... That isn't an argument.
You are coming from the exact wrong direction, and yes, the 2nd Amendment and it's complete meaning is a argument.
I don't have to "qualify" my reason for buying a rifle that has multiple uses and is easy to use. But you shouldnt not know about firearms sooo...

The AR15 has been in production since the late 60's. It's assault rifle cousins have been in service since 62 and still prefered by most top tier military units that have a choice of rifle. There are millions of them built for every reason you could ever use a rifle for, and they come in every caliber from .17HMR to .50 BMG to crossbow. Yes, AR15's come in crossbow. They are(were! Confused )cheap on ammo,accurate and easy to shoot do to the inline buffer design and the 223/5.56 low recoil. In DC vs Heller, SCOTUS ruled that the kind of arms protected by the 2nd amendment are ones that "are commonly owned by law abiding citizens for legitimate purposes" as apposed to "dangerous and unusual"arms. A semi auto firearm is based off of 100+ year old technology, and the AR has been in our hands for 40+ years being supplied with mostly 30r and some 20r magazines. There are so many different makers making soo many little different variations that you can't even keep up with the companies. It is certainly more that common, it's the most popular rifle in America right now sans any political derp.

My AR15 is the only rifle I own because it's the ultimate utility rifle. I can hunt, cross train for work, shoot different matches and defend my house with it. My wife even shoots it and she dosent exactly get excited about firearms.


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16-01-2013, 09:04 PM
Re: RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(16-01-2013 07:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(16-01-2013 07:13 PM)Diablo Wrote:  Overblown hysteria about gun violence and safety. Its not much, but at least there is a reason.
I meant 'rational, useful reason'.

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