9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
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22-01-2013, 12:46 PM
RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers.
(22-01-2013 11:52 AM)TrulyX Wrote:  
(22-01-2013 11:08 AM)Chas Wrote:  No one is contending that lethal force is always allowed. Any homicide will be investigated and could result in prosecution. However, killing an intruder who threatens harm is almost invariably judged to be a justifiable homicide.

This has been true in common law as long as there has been the common law.

I wasn't trying to make it seem like I thought anyone was contending that it was always allowed.

As far as killing an intruder, I stand by the views I've already expressed on that. I don't think the laws should reflect anything that allows it to be justified homicide on an assumed threat, an expressed threat or simply upon entering a home, alone. Obviously, it is extremely likely that you would not even know what actually took place in most of those situation; the evidence probably wouldn't be able to get you past reasonable doubt as long a person was simply able make up a good story, within the law, about what happened. I just don't think the laws should reflect, or promote an attitude, that a person has some sort of right to murder someone in certain situations.

Maybe that could cause trouble in a society like ours, where a jury of peers, as opposed to more scholarly people, get to make the decision; but those are the same people getting to vote for representatives to make, enact and enforce laws, so if they aren't educated enough to make those decisions, we'd be screwed regardless.

And I contend that an intruder in my home has already presented himself as a threat.
I will interpret any aggression on his part as potentially lethal and will respond with lethal force.

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RE: 9,146 gun homicides in US. 16,885 killed by drunk drivers. - Chas - 22-01-2013 12:46 PM
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