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20-06-2015, 10:15 AM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
Please stop this bullshit of "other bad shit happens" and " people can be killed with other things" NO SHIT, but guns make it much easier because the person using them can keep their distance and avoid injury when murdering someone.

We have a gun death problem and only a fucking idiot would be as selfish to protect an object and pretend, or ignore we have a gun death problem. Don't blow smoke in my face and say there is not a gun death problem.

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20-06-2015, 10:36 AM
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(20-06-2015 10:15 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Please stop this bullshit of "other bad shit happens" and " people can be killed with other things" NO SHIT, but guns make it much easier because the person using them can keep their distance and avoid injury when murdering someone.

We have a gun death problem and only a fucking idiot would be as selfish to protect an object and pretend, or ignore we have a gun death problem. Don't blow smoke in my face and say there is not a gun death problem.

So far as I am aware there isn't a case of a gun wandering into a place and killing people without a person attached that has some sort of issue...mentally, emotionally, or otherwise.

People -the people who go on killing sprees are the problem. Taking away guns won't fix that. You will still have people who need help.

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20-06-2015, 10:44 AM
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34.4 million people, or 15% of the US population, participates in shooting sports every year. http://nssf.org/PDF/research/NSSF-Shooti...Report.pdf No matter how crazy some people think we are, we are not going to give up our guns and that is a fact. A hell of a lot of people enjoy blowing up clay pigeons and punching holes in paper targets, or shooting metallic silhouettes, or 50 other types of shooting sports and they are not going to quit. Anybody who thinks that the shooters in this country are going to willingly give up their guns is crazier than a bedbug. You can yell and scream and jump up and down and piss in your pants and we are not going to pay much attention to you. In fact, the louder and more obnoxious you get, the more we will shut you out. Most of us, unlike Europeans, grew up with guns and they have always been a part of our lives.

Now, if you start talking about ending racism and teaching critical thinking skills to school kids and teaching respect for others, most of us will come to your support. If you advocate free mental health care for the masses, many of us will support you. Getting at the cause of gun violence, rather than merely fretting over the instrumentality, will get you almost universal support.
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20-06-2015, 10:45 AM
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(20-06-2015 10:44 AM)Black Eagle Wrote:  34.4 million people, or 15% of the US population, participates in shooting sports every year. http://nssf.org/PDF/research/NSSF-Shooti...Report.pdf No matter how crazy some people think we are, we are not going to give up our guns and that is a fact. A hell of a lot of people enjoy blowing up clay pigeons and punching holes in paper targets, or shooting metallic silhouettes, or 50 other types of shooting sports and they are not going to quit. Anybody who thinks that the shooters in this country are going to willingly give up their guns is crazier than a bedbug. You can yell and scream and jump up and down and piss in your pants and we are not going to pay much attention to you. In fact, the louder and more obnoxious you get, the more we will shut you out. Most of us, unlike Europeans, grew up with guns and they have always been a part of our lives.

Now, if you start talking about ending racism and teaching critical thinking skills to school kids and teaching respect for others, most of us will come to your support. If you advocate free mental health care for the masses, many of us will support you. Getting at the cause of gun violence, rather than merely fretting over the instrumentality, will get you almost universal support.

Yeah cause fuck all those dead people We like shooting shit and don't care.

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20-06-2015, 10:48 AM
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May I very respectfully say that you won't stop killings but you would reduce the death toll, you could shoot maybe 4 people in the time it would take to stab 1 person to death with a knife
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20-06-2015, 10:50 AM
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How many of you anti-gun advocates play first person shooter games?

Yeah, yeah - no one ends up really dead but you must see some appeal in the firing of a weapon and a hit. Even if it's virtual.

If you are want to preach anti-gun, make sure you are really anti-gun.

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20-06-2015, 11:06 AM
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I don't play those games for the simple reason that I have done it for real and it wasn't nice infact it fucked me up badly. Also people can enjoy archery and air rifle target shooting but I reckon its all academic there will be no change so no need to worry really
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20-06-2015, 11:06 AM
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(20-06-2015 10:36 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(20-06-2015 10:15 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Please stop this bullshit of "other bad shit happens" and " people can be killed with other things" NO SHIT, but guns make it much easier because the person using them can keep their distance and avoid injury when murdering someone.

We have a gun death problem and only a fucking idiot would be as selfish to protect an object and pretend, or ignore we have a gun death problem. Don't blow smoke in my face and say there is not a gun death problem.

So far as I am aware there isn't a case of a gun wandering into a place and killing people without a person attached that has some sort of issue...mentally, emotionally, or otherwise.

People -the people who go on killing sprees are the problem. Taking away guns won't fix that. You will still have people who need help.

Bullshit, again you are protecting the object when no one is claiming an object can do something on its own. CONDITIONS matter and because of the profit protecting by the makers and the NRA that has created our flooded market, of course things like this are going to happen.

Now again, who the fuck is talking about banning all guns? I am talking about how guns are viewed and worshiped, no different than when Islamist threaten violence when you tell them that the Koran IS used to justify violence. Same selfish mentality.

This is not about RIGHTS this is about CONDITIONS and an industry that does not care who gets hurt by the volume of guns they make. The fact is most gun deaths are because of LEGALLY purchased guns, not illegal.

NO ONE WANTS TO BAN ALL GUNS, liberals own guns too. The difference is liberals accept there is a gun death problem, and do not worship objects.

What will fix it is to stop avoiding criticism. What will fix it is stop allowing the makers and NRA to obstruct any type of pragmatic change. What will stop it is stop pitting voters against each other. What will stop it is to stop pitting blacks against whites. What will stop it is to stop pitting whites against cops or blacks against cops, and stop creating conditions that have cops fear society to the point of being armed to the teeth themselves.

And on top of that, better pay for all, investment in livable wages, publicly funded health care, free higher education, lower cost of living.

No other 1rst world nation in the west has our gun death problem. No other nation has our pay gap. And our counterparts are not fascist states either.

So please dispense with the excuses and stop being a gun apologist, you sound like a fundy. You can work with the sane people who accept is a problem, or you can get out of the way, but only an idiot thinks the amount of gun death is acceptable.

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20-06-2015, 11:10 AM
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(20-06-2015 11:06 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  
(20-06-2015 10:36 AM)Anjele Wrote:  So far as I am aware there isn't a case of a gun wandering into a place and killing people without a person attached that has some sort of issue...mentally, emotionally, or otherwise.

People -the people who go on killing sprees are the problem. Taking away guns won't fix that. You will still have people who need help.

Bullshit, again you are protecting the object when no one is claiming an object can do something on its own. CONDITIONS matter and because of the profit protecting by the makers and the NRA that has created our flooded market, of course things like this are going to happen.

Now again, who the fuck is talking about banning all guns? I am talking about how guns are viewed and worshiped, no different than when Islamist threaten violence when you tell them that the Koran IS used to justify violence. Same selfish mentality.

This is not about RIGHTS this is about CONDITIONS and an industry that does not care who gets hurt by the volume of guns they make. The fact is most gun deaths are because of LEGALLY purchased guns, not illegal.

NO ONE WANTS TO BAN ALL GUNS, liberals own guns too. The difference is liberals accept there is a gun death problem, and do not worship objects.

What will fix it is to stop avoiding criticism. What will fix it is stop allowing the makers and NRA to obstruct any type of pragmatic change. What will stop it is stop pitting voters against each other. What will stop it is to stop pitting blacks against whites. What will stop it is to stop pitting whites against cops or blacks against cops, and stop creating conditions that have cops fear society to the point of being armed to the teeth themselves.

And on top of that, better pay for all, investment in livable wages, publicly funded health care, free higher education, lower cost of living.

No other 1rst world nation in the west has our gun death problem. No other nation has our pay gap. And our counterparts are not fascist states either.

So please dispense with the excuses and stop being a gun apologist, you sound like a fundy. You can work with the sane people who accept is a problem, or you can get out of the way, but only an idiot thinks the amount of gun death is acceptable.

Though you didn't throw in climate change this time - you are all over the place with stuff that isn't even part of the issue.

I don't think the number of gun deaths is acceptable. Nor do I think any kind of murder is acceptable.

You are the one who sounds rabid and unhinged and you are exactly who I hope doesn't have access to a firearm.

You sound more and more deranged with every post.

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20-06-2015, 11:12 AM
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(20-06-2015 10:45 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(20-06-2015 10:44 AM)Black Eagle Wrote:  34.4 million people, or 15% of the US population, participates in shooting sports every year. http://nssf.org/PDF/research/NSSF-Shooti...Report.pdf No matter how crazy some people think we are, we are not going to give up our guns and that is a fact. A hell of a lot of people enjoy blowing up clay pigeons and punching holes in paper targets, or shooting metallic silhouettes, or 50 other types of shooting sports and they are not going to quit. Anybody who thinks that the shooters in this country are going to willingly give up their guns is crazier than a bedbug. You can yell and scream and jump up and down and piss in your pants and we are not going to pay much attention to you. In fact, the louder and more obnoxious you get, the more we will shut you out. Most of us, unlike Europeans, grew up with guns and they have always been a part of our lives.

Now, if you start talking about ending racism and teaching critical thinking skills to school kids and teaching respect for others, most of us will come to your support. If you advocate free mental health care for the masses, many of us will support you. Getting at the cause of gun violence, rather than merely fretting over the instrumentality, will get you almost universal support.

Yeah cause fuck all those dead people We like shooting shit and don't care.

Well, that was the tipping point for you Rev. No one said we don't care that people died. The argument has been about the cause.

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