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27-06-2015, 05:38 PM (This post was last modified: 27-06-2015 05:42 PM by joben1.)
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(26-06-2015 05:47 PM)Hypatia Wrote:  
(25-06-2015 05:30 PM)joben1 Wrote:  And there's the difference, a punch in the mouth or a bullet in the heart. I know which I'd prefer.

So you think that, if there was a revolt in this country, it would be against the Royalty? Fucking hell you are dumb.

As for the thing about what my life is worth; I'm not quite certain of what your point is, but if it's what I think it is, your dumbness has gone up a notch.

Serf? Yep, you are dumb.

Ahh.... can't beat me on the playing field so ambush me in the locker room and call me "dumb".

Well done, subject...serf....or sheep. You choose. A dolt by any other name lines up to bleat...

::bahbahbah::

I choose none of the above. Sorry to deflate your bluster, but i well and truly consider yourself beat.

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27-06-2015, 05:41 PM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(27-06-2015 05:34 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 05:32 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  [Image: misc-you-dont-say-l.png]

Thats like saying in states that don't normally have Brown Recluses, you won't find brown recluses. Its circular reasoning and is not a counter argument to anything.

Bullshit the #1 argument the gun nuts here are using is "If you outlaw guns only outlaws have them"

And why do you think that is bullshit? What do you think is going to happen to the 310,000,000 guns extant in peoples' hands?

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27-06-2015, 05:42 PM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(27-06-2015 03:44 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 03:20 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  How come ---

Switzerland, ..

Not sure the Swiss are a good example to make your point. Fuckers off themselves regularly. Almost always with a gun.

That's their own business, their own choice.

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27-06-2015, 05:44 PM
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(26-06-2015 05:35 PM)Kestrel Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 03:36 PM)Stevil Wrote:  In societies where handguns are rare, it is rare for criminals to have handguns.

Aye. But they're so innovative and motivated!

The debate about reducing stabbings among the capital’s young is following a predictably unsatisfactory course

And

Britain's knife crime capital revealed: Figures show hundreds are caught carrying blades every week

Yep, knives are a problem in some parts over here. Personally, I'm more scared of guns.

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27-06-2015, 05:46 PM
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(27-06-2015 05:41 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 05:34 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Bullshit the #1 argument the gun nuts here are using is "If you outlaw guns only outlaws have them"

And why do you think that is bullshit? What do you think is going to happen to the 310,000,000 guns extant in peoples' hands?

Exactly, it's too late so you have to live with it, unless one considers an amnesty will work.

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27-06-2015, 05:57 PM
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(27-06-2015 05:32 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 03:36 PM)Stevil Wrote:  In societies where handguns are rare, it is rare for criminals to have handguns.
Thats like saying in states that don't normally have Brown Recluses, you won't find brown recluses. Its circular reasoning and is not a counter argument to anything.
No it's not circular.
It applies to countries where handguns aren't already common.
It makes no sense to legalise handguns because that would bring the handguns into the country and many of those would fall into the hands of the would be criminals.

My comment was in response to this statement
" Criminals don't give a fuck for laws. They already have guns illegally."
This might be true in USA, that the guns are already there, but we shouldn't restrict our conversation to USA or assume that USA is the context of the conversation.
In many countries the criminals don't have handguns.
It is irrelevant whether "Criminals don't give a fuck for laws." it is a fact that the criminals don't already have the guns and find it hard to get the guns. The law of restricting access to guns works in many countries.
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27-06-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(27-06-2015 05:57 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 05:32 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  Thats like saying in states that don't normally have Brown Recluses, you won't find brown recluses. Its circular reasoning and is not a counter argument to anything.
No it's not circular.
It applies to countries where handguns aren't already common.
It makes no sense to legalise handguns because that would bring the handguns into the country and many of those would fall into the hands of the would be criminals.

My comment was in response to this statement
" Criminals don't give a fuck for laws. They already have guns illegally."
This might be true in USA, that the guns are already there, but we shouldn't restrict our conversation to USA or assume that USA is the context of the conversation.
In many countries the criminals don't have handguns.
It is irrelevant whether "Criminals don't give a fuck for laws." it is a fact that the criminals don't already have the guns and find it hard to get the guns. The law of restricting access to guns works in many countries.

Ah I see what you are saying, my apologies. I miss interpreted.

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27-06-2015, 06:14 PM
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(27-06-2015 05:44 PM)joben1 Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 05:35 PM)Kestrel Wrote:  Aye. But they're so innovative and motivated!

The debate about reducing stabbings among the capital’s young is following a predictably unsatisfactory course

And

Britain's knife crime capital revealed: Figures show hundreds are caught carrying blades every week

Yep, knives are a problem in some parts over here. Personally, I'm more scared of guns.

Knives are not the only problem in the UK. National Crime Agency report says 1 in 35 UK men could become a sexual risk to children.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...34624.html

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27-06-2015, 06:28 PM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(27-06-2015 06:14 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 05:44 PM)joben1 Wrote:  Yep, knives are a problem in some parts over here. Personally, I'm more scared of guns.

Knives are not the only problem in the UK. National Crime Agency report says 1 in 35 UK men could become a sexual risk to children.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...34624.html

Yep, this came as a shock to me. I wonder what the figures are worldwide.

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27-06-2015, 06:36 PM
RE: 9 Dead in SC church shooting
(27-06-2015 06:28 PM)joben1 Wrote:  
(27-06-2015 06:14 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  Knives are not the only problem in the UK. National Crime Agency report says 1 in 35 UK men could become a sexual risk to children.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...34624.html

Yep, this came as a shock to me. I wonder what the figures are worldwide.

Would guess a lot unfortunately.

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