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23-03-2016, 04:28 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:22 PM)ScottD Wrote:  Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?" Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."…

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23-03-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:26 PM)ScottD Wrote:  I cannot prove God's existence.
They know.

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23-03-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:19 PM)ScottD Wrote:  
(23-03-2016 04:13 PM)Alla Wrote:  ask ScottD Smile

Jesus.

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

mhmmm now let's put on our thinking caps....

Who wrote John?

Who witnessed Jesus saying ANYTHING since not one person EVER in history who wrote of jesus actually knew him...not one...

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23-03-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:26 PM)ScottD Wrote:  Please people, I am not here to convince anyone. I cannot prove God's existence.
I answered a specific thread. stick to it.

You were okay up until the last imperative. Just makes me want to derail it.

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23-03-2016, 04:41 PM (This post was last modified: 23-03-2016 04:44 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:28 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-03-2016 04:22 PM)ScottD Wrote:  Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?" Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."…
1) where does it say here that Jesus is God?
2) why can't an atheist who does good works enter heaven?
3)what does it mean: I am the way? HOW is He the way? for WHOM is He the way?

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Wrt the OP. The options I see are is it better to be 1) good people, or 2) an asshole, or 3) a criminal. Seems like a no-brainer to me independent of a Christian perspective or not.

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23-03-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(23-03-2016 04:26 PM)ScottD Wrote:  Please people, I am not here to convince anyone. I cannot prove God's existence.
I answered a specific thread. stick to it.

You were okay up until the last imperative. Just makes me want to derail it.

Let me help ya there Girly...




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23-03-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:22 PM)ScottD Wrote:  
(23-03-2016 04:10 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  Define prophet

Define god

Define heaven

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Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?" Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."…

This is not how we have a meaningful discussion. Being able to quote scripture won't get you very far and using that as your only retort, even less so.


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23-03-2016, 04:49 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:41 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(23-03-2016 04:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You were okay up until the last imperative. Just makes me want to derail it.

Let me help ya there Girly...




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23-03-2016, 04:59 PM
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23-03-2016, 05:10 PM
RE: A Question for Theists (and others) About Heaven
(23-03-2016 04:28 PM)Alla Wrote:  1) where does it say here that Jesus is God?

John 14:6King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

According to xian tradition, He is the father son and holy ghost.
Quote:2) why can't an atheist who does good works enter heaven?

Predestination Alla.


Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Quote:3)what does it mean: I am the way? HOW is He the way? for WHOM is He the way?

Again, predestination.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

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