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05-05-2015, 05:16 PM
A Reason to be Grateful
Crucifixion iconography is so entrenched it infuses imagery that isn't even religious, and it is this very ubiquity that gives us good reason to be grateful Christ did not meet his end at the hands of someone like Vlad the Impaler. Imagine that kind of image at every turn. Crucifixion is gruesome enough, and it says a great deal in a non-complimentary way about the sort of group that chooses something that macabre and grotesque as the logo for "Join Our God of Love", but at least it isn't the stylized prick on a stick it could have been.
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05-05-2015, 06:20 PM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
Or some of the other alternatives!

Boiled alive in a vat of oil? Deep-fat frying would be disrespectful! Just imagine the impact on Southern cuisine, not to mention fast food!
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05-05-2015, 07:21 PM
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I'd put up with some more morbidness if it meant their symbol not being something so abundant everywhere.

When was the last time you saw steel beams or telephone poles in the shape of someone being, say, skinned alive?

Popcorn I put more thought into fiction than theists put into reality.
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05-05-2015, 07:33 PM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
Wait, was he on a cross or hanged? Nooses on the neck might be a very striking fashion statement. Sure works for Scarecrow [Image: scarecrow_tnba_1.jpg]
Acts 5:30
30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 10:39
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

Acts 13:29
29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

1 Peter 2:24
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

"I don't have to have faith, I have experience." Joseph Campbell
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06-05-2015, 03:02 AM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
Crucifix fits Christianity , implement of torture is good thing to show when religion is about saving from eternal suffering. It's join us or else...

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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06-05-2015, 05:33 AM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
(05-05-2015 05:16 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  Crucifixion iconography is so entrenched it infuses imagery that isn't even religious, and it is this very ubiquity that gives us good reason to be grateful Christ did not meet his end at the hands of someone like Vlad the Impaler. Imagine that kind of image at every turn. Crucifixion is gruesome enough, and it says a great deal in a non-complimentary way about the sort of group that chooses something that macabre and grotesque as the logo for "Join Our God of Love", but at least it isn't the stylized prick on a stick it could have been.

Yeah, it would have been interesting to see what would've happened if Jesus died from the beating he took from the Roman soldiers, would we see a cat of nine tails or a fist around Christian's necks?

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Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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06-05-2015, 05:49 AM
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(05-05-2015 05:16 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  Crucifixion iconography is so entrenched it infuses imagery that isn't even religious, and it is this very ubiquity that gives us good reason to be grateful Christ did not meet his end at the hands of someone like Vlad the Impaler. Imagine that kind of image at every turn.

Also, think about how it'd affect the stories, like Jesus having Thomas stick his fingers in his wounds to prove to him he's the really real deal. If he'd be impaled, he'd be telling him to stick his arm though his chest cavity!

Picture the imagery and conversation with Thomas if Jesus had been:
  • Decapitated. Christians wear axe necklaces and Jesus tells Thomas to observe him holding his own talking head.
  • Burned at the stake. Christians wear flame necklaces and Jesus tells Thomas to look at his charred bones.
  • Stoned. Christians wear stupid rock necklaces and Jesus tells Thomas to look at his mangled bones.
  • Drawn and quartered. Christians wear necklaces consisting of a noose, knives, and an axe, and Jesus yells at Thomas from a wheel barrow.
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06-05-2015, 06:07 AM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
If they had electricity back then, we might be seeing this icon -

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If he was hung, we might be seeing this icon -

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06-05-2015, 06:29 AM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
always focus on the suffering. Would be nice if they just had a wine glass necklaces. Have a clear liquid, and once you turn it over it turns red and back again. Would be more fun and less depressing.

"I don't have to have faith, I have experience." Joseph Campbell
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06-05-2015, 01:28 PM
RE: A Reason to be Grateful
Spanish Donkey.

Don't Live each day like it's your last. Live each day like you have 541 days after that one where every choice you make will have lasting implications to you and the world around you. ~ Tim Minchin
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