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20-08-2012, 04:56 PM
A future Pastor and Christian Apologist
Greetings Everyone,

I'm a college student who is in the process of earning a BA in pastoral ministry, in preparation to head into the ministry as an assistant pastor. Following my undergraduate studies, I hope to do graduate work at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and Biola University in Theology, Church History, Christian Apologetics, and possibly Science and Religion, whether this leads to doctoral studies is still to be determined.

My purpose in coming to this forum is to resharpen my writing and debating skills as both have grown rusty from lack of use. If someone is influenced by the arguments I present, I will count it an honor and a privilege, but my expectations here are not to convert everybody. I just want to have some civil discussions with people from the opposite side of the spectrum.
For those of you that attended the Reason Rally, I also was in attendance with a group called True Reason. Unlike the "Christians" at the rally who bore signs and got into yelling matches with the atheists at the rally, participants in our group engaged in civil and respectful discussions that was well-received by those we conversed with. I hope to engage in similar discussions here on this forum, and I will strive to show you the same gentleness and respect that I offered to those at the rally.

Feel free to ask me any questions about Christianity. I'm talking many of major classes this year, so I'll need outlet to talk about all this.

Look forward to talking with you all!

-Tom
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20-08-2012, 06:19 PM
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Good to have you here, Tom. More theists are a plus.

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20-08-2012, 06:28 PM
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Howdy Tom. [Image: Tip-Hat.gif]

(20-08-2012 04:56 PM)TrueReason Wrote:  I just want to have some civil discussions with people from the opposite side of the spectrum.

If by "civil" you mean I won't go all ad hominem on your ass or dismiss your propositions out of hand, then we're good to go. Thumbsup If by "civil" you mean I'm not gonna swear like a goddam fucking drunken sailor, then you're shit out of luck.

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20-08-2012, 06:30 PM
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(20-08-2012 06:28 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Howdy Tom. [Image: Tip-Hat.gif]

(20-08-2012 04:56 PM)TrueReason Wrote:  I just want to have some civil discussions with people from the opposite side of the spectrum.

If by "civil" you mean I won't go all ad hominem on your ass or dismiss your propositions out of hand, then we're good to go. Thumbsup If by "civil" you mean I'm not gonna swear like a goddam fucking drunken sailor, then you're shit out of luck.

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20-08-2012, 06:31 PM
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(20-08-2012 06:19 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Good to have you here, Tom. More theists are a plus.

Or a mixed blessing.Consider

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20-08-2012, 06:34 PM
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(20-08-2012 06:31 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(20-08-2012 06:19 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Good to have you here, Tom. More theists are a plus.

Or a mixed blessing.Consider

You're right on that.

Can we please stop agreeing?

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20-08-2012, 06:36 PM
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(20-08-2012 06:31 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(20-08-2012 06:19 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Good to have you here, Tom. More theists are a plus.

Or a mixed blessing.Consider

We can change the forum name to The Thinking Atheist and Trying To Sharpen Their Skills Theists, or TTA&TTSTST...eventually we'll need a T&A acronym...

Anyway, welcome, I guess...Drinking Beverage

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20-08-2012, 06:36 PM
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(20-08-2012 04:56 PM)TrueReason Wrote:  Greetings Everyone,

I'm a college student who is in the process of earning a BA in pastoral ministry, in preparation to head into the ministry as an assistant pastor. Following my undergraduate studies, I hope to do graduate work at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and Biola University in Theology, Church History, Christian Apologetics, and possibly Science and Religion, whether this leads to doctoral studies is still to be determined.

My purpose in coming to this forum is to resharpen my writing and debating skills as both have grown rusty from lack of use. If someone is influenced by the arguments I present, I will count it an honor and a privilege, but my expectations here are not to convert everybody. I just want to have some civil discussions with people from the opposite side of the spectrum.
For those of you that attended the Reason Rally, I also was in attendance with a group called True Reason. Unlike the "Christians" at the rally who bore signs and got into yelling matches with the atheists at the rally, participants in our group engaged in civil and respectful discussions that was well-received by those we conversed with. I hope to engage in similar discussions here on this forum, and I will strive to show you the same gentleness and respect that I offered to those at the rally.

Feel free to ask me any questions about Christianity. I'm talking many of major classes this year, so I'll need outlet to talk about all this.

Look forward to talking with you all!

-Tom

Welcome, Tom. Don't bother trotting out the old, tired apologies. We've heard them all and countered them all. They are full of holes and illogic.
If you have something new, great, love to hear it.

I am a scientific realist, secular humanist, agnostic atheist, and have no patience for the same crap over and over. I will be civil, but I won't sugarcoat anything.

My first shot over your bow is that I am sorry you are going to waste your life on that crap. If you want to help people, do something useful and constructive.

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20-08-2012, 06:39 PM
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Tom - to echo Chas's post, please spend some time going through the older threads to see what has been covered ad naseum...you may be new, but some of us (and that doesn't really even include me) have plowed this ground a hundred times over Smile

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20-08-2012, 07:00 PM
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Hi Tom,
I have no real history on this forum, so I do not speak for anyone but myself. Many years ago I dropped out of engineering school, enrolled at Asbury College and intended to study for the Methodist ministry. I was unable to transfer immediately and took a semester to self study under the direction of some people already in the field. Since I intended to spend my life trying to convince people that they should follow a particular path, I assumed I should be pretty sure of my own decisions beforehand.

My studies led to changing my mind about my earlier conclusions. I studied mathematics instead of theology and feel I avoided wasting a great deal of my life advocating Christianity as a lifestyle choice.

I'm not really volunteering for sparring but I may reply from time to time. Should you change your mind on career direction, there is at least one person who will understand the transition. I expect there are others.
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