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05-07-2015, 02:12 PM
A little proof, or helpfully evidence.
A 75,000 year-old stone calendar - In the cradle of humankind.

A new discovery of an ancient circular monolithic stone calendar site in Mpumalanga has proven to be at least 75,000 years old, pre-dating any other structure found to date. Southern Africa holds some of the deepest mysteries in all of human history. What we are told is that at around 60,000 years ago the early humans migrated from Africa and populated the rest of the world.

Who were these first humans? What did they do? And where did they disappear to?
It estimated that there are well over 1,000,000 (one million) ancient stone ruins scattered throughout the mountains of southern Africa. Various tools and artefacts that have been recovered from these ruins show a long and extended period of settlement that spans well over 200,000 years.

Many of these artefacts that include, coins, carvings, swords, symbols, head rests, bowls, statues and more, show that virtually every ancient culture was present here in southern Africa at some point in history. This includes the Sumerians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Dogon, Dravidians, and even the Incas. The most spectacular examples of these ancient ruins lie between Machadodorp and Waterval Boven, Mpumalanga. Modern historians have been speculating about the origins of these ruins, often calling them ‘cattle kraal of little historic importance’.

The truth of the matter is that closer scientific inspection shows that we actually know very little about these spectacular ancient ruins. While many have been adapted by more recent arrivals or inhabitants over the past 500 years, the original “stone circles” have no doors or entrances while most are connected by an expansive network of mysterious channels that are often misinterpreted as “roads” by some historians. Furthermore, this massive connected grid of circular ruins are immersed in a seemingly never-ending expanse of ancient agricultural terraces that surround the structures and seem to be an extension of the ruins. It is a great tragedy that countless ruins have been destroyed by human development and industry through sheer ignorance but some farmers and forestry companies have started to protect a small number of these ruin as they recognise their importance in human history.

Adam’s Calendar is the flagship among these ruins. This spectacular ancient site is aligned with the N,S,E,W cardinal points of planet Earth, solstices and equinoxes. It is still accurate as a calendar by following the shadow of the setting sun, which is cast by the taller central monolith onto the flat calendar stone beside it. It has been dated with relative certainty to at least 75,000 years of age based on a number of scientific evaluations.

The calendar was re-discovered by Johan Heine in 2003 and named by Michael Tellinger as Adam’s Calendar because it is possibly the oldest structure on Earth that is linked to human origins. It has however been known by African elders, indigenous knowledge keepers and Shaman as “The Birthplace of The Sun”, or “Inzalo y’Langa” where humanity was created by the gods.

From a geological perspective, Adam’s Calendar presents us with undeniable geophysical evidence that our planet has undergone a crustal shift, or crustal displacement at some turbulent time in our past. This is when the north-south axis of the planet actually moves to a different position. This was proposed in the work of Charles Hapgood in the 1950s, which was strongly supported by Albert Einstein, suggesting that the Earth’s crust shifts from time to time, moving the polar axis of the planet with it.

Adam’s Calendar also presents the first tangible evidence of consciousness among the earliest humans in the ‘Cradle of Humankind’ while some of the tools suggest that they had a much better understanding of the laws of nature than we have today. The site is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, suggesting a connection between those ancient civilisation and the builders of all three of these sites.

The stone ruins of southern Africa present us with a very exciting missing piece of the puzzle regarding the murky origins of humankind and possibly point us in the right direction to discover the true cradle of humankind.
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05-07-2015, 02:30 PM
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"Adam's Calendar"?

Suuuuuree......

A feeble attempt to reconcile the failings of a theistic "history" that keeps not panning out.

I'm sure "missionaries" will be flocking there to correct the natives (who knew about this) and tell them "Jebus did it" -- or whatever rot they can cook up this time.


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05-07-2015, 03:24 PM (This post was last modified: 05-07-2015 04:57 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: A little proof, or helpfully evidence.
(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  which was strongly supported by Albert Einstein, suggesting that the Earth’s crust shifts from time to time, moving the polar axis of the planet with it.

Einstein was not a geologist. This is what is known as the Argumentum ad Vericundiam. He was an expert in ONLY his own field, (and he is known to have made MANY serious errors, even in Physics).

(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  while some of the tools suggest that they had a much better understanding of the laws of nature than we have today.

No it suggests no such thing, and we know they had no such knowledge. Did they have antibiotics, MRI's or open-heart surgery ?

(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  The site is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, suggesting a connection between those ancient civilisation and the builders of all three of these sites.

Even if it could be proven, correlation is not causation. There is nothing suggesting any such thing. Do peoples and things along the same longitudinal lines today, necessarily have any connection ? Nope.

(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  The stone ruins of southern Africa present us with a very exciting missing piece of the puzzle regarding the murky origins of humankind and possibly point us in the right direction to discover the true cradle of humankind.

We already know the locations of the cradle of mankind.
It was the planet the aliens came from that started everything. Weeping
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05-07-2015, 03:28 PM
RE: A little proof, or helpfully evidence.
(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  A 75,000 year-old stone calendar - In the cradle of humankind.

A new discovery of an ancient circular monolithic stone calendar site in Mpumalanga has proven to be at least 75,000 years old, pre-dating any other structure found to date. Southern Africa holds some of the deepest mysteries in all of human history. What we are told is that at around 60,000 years ago the early humans migrated from Africa and populated the rest of the world.

Who were these first humans? What did they do? And where did they disappear to?
It estimated that there are well over 1,000,000 (one million) ancient stone ruins scattered throughout the mountains of southern Africa. Various tools and artefacts that have been recovered from these ruins show a long and extended period of settlement that spans well over 200,000 years.

Many of these artefacts that include, coins, carvings, swords, symbols, head rests, bowls, statues and more, show that virtually every ancient culture was present here in southern Africa at some point in history. This includes the Sumerians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Dogon, Dravidians, and even the Incas. The most spectacular examples of these ancient ruins lie between Machadodorp and Waterval Boven, Mpumalanga. Modern historians have been speculating about the origins of these ruins, often calling them ‘cattle kraal of little historic importance’.

The truth of the matter is that closer scientific inspection shows that we actually know very little about these spectacular ancient ruins. While many have been adapted by more recent arrivals or inhabitants over the past 500 years, the original “stone circles” have no doors or entrances while most are connected by an expansive network of mysterious channels that are often misinterpreted as “roads” by some historians. Furthermore, this massive connected grid of circular ruins are immersed in a seemingly never-ending expanse of ancient agricultural terraces that surround the structures and seem to be an extension of the ruins. It is a great tragedy that countless ruins have been destroyed by human development and industry through sheer ignorance but some farmers and forestry companies have started to protect a small number of these ruin as they recognise their importance in human history.

Adam’s Calendar is the flagship among these ruins. This spectacular ancient site is aligned with the N,S,E,W cardinal points of planet Earth, solstices and equinoxes. It is still accurate as a calendar by following the shadow of the setting sun, which is cast by the taller central monolith onto the flat calendar stone beside it. It has been dated with relative certainty to at least 75,000 years of age based on a number of scientific evaluations.

The calendar was re-discovered by Johan Heine in 2003 and named by Michael Tellinger as Adam’s Calendar because it is possibly the oldest structure on Earth that is linked to human origins. It has however been known by African elders, indigenous knowledge keepers and Shaman as “The Birthplace of The Sun”, or “Inzalo y’Langa” where humanity was created by the gods.

From a geological perspective, Adam’s Calendar presents us with undeniable geophysical evidence that our planet has undergone a crustal shift, or crustal displacement at some turbulent time in our past. This is when the north-south axis of the planet actually moves to a different position. This was proposed in the work of Charles Hapgood in the 1950s, which was strongly supported by Albert Einstein, suggesting that the Earth’s crust shifts from time to time, moving the polar axis of the planet with it.

Adam’s Calendar also presents the first tangible evidence of consciousness among the earliest humans in the ‘Cradle of Humankind’ while some of the tools suggest that they had a much better understanding of the laws of nature than we have today. The site is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, suggesting a connection between those ancient civilisation and the builders of all three of these sites.

The stone ruins of southern Africa present us with a very exciting missing piece of the puzzle regarding the murky origins of humankind and possibly point us in the right direction to discover the true cradle of humankind.

You are very gullible. I suggest you do some fact-checking.

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05-07-2015, 03:29 PM
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(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  A 75,000 year-old stone calendar - In the cradle of humankind.

Can you provide a link to where you got that information? Some of it looks interesting but searching on "Adam's Calendar" leads to a lot of sites that appear to be right up there with the "ancient aliens" garbage.

For anybody else searching, the structures are also called the Bantu stone circles.

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05-07-2015, 03:30 PM
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It's posts like this that help me practice being skeptical.
There's a lot here to digest, so I guess my first question should be: Where did you get this information?
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05-07-2015, 04:00 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I can't say for sure that most speculation is extreme in comparison to the obvious connections I can make. With that being said I cannot speak on the behalf of such speculation. I know a lot of info can be found on a new forum called @ "riseresolution.com"
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05-07-2015, 04:50 PM
RE: A little proof, or helpfully evidence.
How about this:

South Africa's Enigmatic Stone Ruins Explored


Quote:I can categorically say that I have seen nothing that might convince me that Adam's Calendar was constructed beyond the currently held time-frame of megalithic construction, which began with Gobekli Tepe and the other Pre-Pottery Neolithic structures of SE Turkey and North Syria c. 10,000-9000 BC. Moreover, there is no argument that might be used to argue that any proposed alignment towards the belt stars of Orion only makes sense if the site was constructed 75,000 years ago. No calculations can be used to prove such an idea, not precession (a 26,000 year cycle), obliquity of the ecliptic (a 41,000 year cycle), or even much longer Milankovitch cycles, which only affect climate and not the earth's astronomical position against the local horizon.

Their dating methodology is sloppy and unscientific, it's an example of someone trying to prove something before they even have evidence, this is not scientific, it's nonsense and not worthy of serious consideration.

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05-07-2015, 04:56 PM
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(05-07-2015 02:12 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  A 75,000 year-old stone calendar - In the cradle of humankind.

A new discovery of an ancient circular monolithic stone calendar site in Mpumalanga has proven to be at least 75,000 years old, pre-dating any other structure found to date. Southern Africa holds some of the deepest mysteries in all of human history. What we are told is that at around 60,000 years ago the early humans migrated from Africa and populated the rest of the world.

Who were these first humans? What did they do? And where did they disappear to?
It estimated that there are well over 1,000,000 (one million) ancient stone ruins scattered throughout the mountains of southern Africa. Various tools and artefacts that have been recovered from these ruins show a long and extended period of settlement that spans well over 200,000 years.

Many of these artefacts that include, coins, carvings, swords, symbols, head rests, bowls, statues and more, show that virtually every ancient culture was present here in southern Africa at some point in history. This includes the Sumerians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Dogon, Dravidians, and even the Incas. The most spectacular examples of these ancient ruins lie between Machadodorp and Waterval Boven, Mpumalanga. Modern historians have been speculating about the origins of these ruins, often calling them ‘cattle kraal of little historic importance’.

The truth of the matter is that closer scientific inspection shows that we actually know very little about these spectacular ancient ruins. While many have been adapted by more recent arrivals or inhabitants over the past 500 years, the original “stone circles” have no doors or entrances while most are connected by an expansive network of mysterious channels that are often misinterpreted as “roads” by some historians. Furthermore, this massive connected grid of circular ruins are immersed in a seemingly never-ending expanse of ancient agricultural terraces that surround the structures and seem to be an extension of the ruins. It is a great tragedy that countless ruins have been destroyed by human development and industry through sheer ignorance but some farmers and forestry companies have started to protect a small number of these ruin as they recognise their importance in human history.

Adam’s Calendar is the flagship among these ruins. This spectacular ancient site is aligned with the N,S,E,W cardinal points of planet Earth, solstices and equinoxes. It is still accurate as a calendar by following the shadow of the setting sun, which is cast by the taller central monolith onto the flat calendar stone beside it. It has been dated with relative certainty to at least 75,000 years of age based on a number of scientific evaluations.

The calendar was re-discovered by Johan Heine in 2003 and named by Michael Tellinger as Adam’s Calendar because it is possibly the oldest structure on Earth that is linked to human origins. It has however been known by African elders, indigenous knowledge keepers and Shaman as “The Birthplace of The Sun”, or “Inzalo y’Langa” where humanity was created by the gods.

From a geological perspective, Adam’s Calendar presents us with undeniable geophysical evidence that our planet has undergone a crustal shift, or crustal displacement at some turbulent time in our past. This is when the north-south axis of the planet actually moves to a different position. This was proposed in the work of Charles Hapgood in the 1950s, which was strongly supported by Albert Einstein, suggesting that the Earth’s crust shifts from time to time, moving the polar axis of the planet with it.

Adam’s Calendar also presents the first tangible evidence of consciousness among the earliest humans in the ‘Cradle of Humankind’ while some of the tools suggest that they had a much better understanding of the laws of nature than we have today. The site is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, suggesting a connection between those ancient civilisation and the builders of all three of these sites.

The stone ruins of southern Africa present us with a very exciting missing piece of the puzzle regarding the murky origins of humankind and possibly point us in the right direction to discover the true cradle of humankind.

Many Neolithic cultures had stone clocks .. season and time-keeping methods. Someone had to have been first. The LAST thing to assume, is that there was woo involved.

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05-07-2015, 04:57 PM
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Michael Tellinger is an entertainer, not an historian. He mostly follow on the footstep of a soviet quack (and several other amateur historians like Jacob Wilkens) who pretended to discover ancient tablet that proved the existence of some biblical and nonbiblical myths.

The problem with Tellinger and their ilk is that they are at heart entertainers not scholars. They seek with passion to prove a story not to explore history. They make interpretation mistakes, they conflate information, discard and damage valuable artefact and don't resist well to critic. They create myths in the general public vision of history, but have at least one redeeming quality. They force real historian to talk about various subject that are usually outside of the public sphere of interest when it comes to history.

PS: if you are going to copy paste entire paragraph from someone else website, you should really give a link to it and acknowledge it otherwise you will appear very dishonest.
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