A message from Seth
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07-07-2013, 10:16 PM
RE: A message from Seth
(07-07-2013 10:02 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  Perhaps I misunderstood the statement, perhaps this rule just ain't enforced. Either way, I'm cool with it.

Nah, the proponents of Free Speech got killed by the god of the forum, Seth.

Fact of the matter is this: If shit didn't get emotional, this wouldn't have been an issue.

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07-07-2013, 10:22 PM
RE: A message from Seth
(07-07-2013 10:16 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Nah, the proponents of Free Speech got killed by the god of the forum, Seth.

Fact of the matter is this: If shit didn't get emotional, this wouldn't have been an issue.

Our free-speech policy is still going strong. Seth's communication to me wasn't to stop people from being offensive or controversial, it wasn't to remove unpopular members when people freak out. He asked me to put an amendment to the rules prohibiting that particular topic in the same way spam and porn are prohibited. By putting a clear and objective rule in place he safeguarded the free-speech of the forum against those who feel that this is a foothold to try and have banned everyone they don't like. If he wanted an end to free-speech he would have asked me to make a rule prohibiting being controversial, unpopular, or in the minority on a subject.

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Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
Worst
Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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07-07-2013, 10:28 PM
RE: A message from Seth
(07-07-2013 10:22 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 10:16 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Nah, the proponents of Free Speech got killed by the god of the forum, Seth.

Fact of the matter is this: If shit didn't get emotional, this wouldn't have been an issue.

Our free-speech policy is still going strong. Seth's communication to me wasn't to stop people from being offensive or controversial, it wasn't to remove unpopular members when people freak out. He asked me to put an amendment to the rules prohibiting that particular topic in the same way spam and porn are prohibited. By putting a clear and objective rule in place he safeguarded the free-speech of the forum against those who feel that this is a foothold to try and have banned everyone they don't like. If he wanted an end to free-speech he would have asked me to make a rule prohibiting being controversial, unpopular, or in the minority on a subject.

You do realize that when I was talking about proponents of Free Speech, I was talking about those who weren't in favor of any rule change. You know, the people who thought that discussion of pedophilia should be allowable, as it does not fall into the category of spam, hate speech, or threats.

We "lost". That was what I meant.

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07-07-2013, 10:36 PM
RE: A message from Seth
Whatever you say Hughsie.

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07-07-2013, 10:36 PM
RE: A message from Seth
Yep. That was my objective. Get a foothold. Kick out all the people I dont like. Make this the TTH instead. Have all the threads be about food and foot grooming


The "Win/Loose" mentality is kinda lame. How about we just think of it as settled.
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07-07-2013, 10:51 PM
RE: A message from Seth
I know Stevie, I think it sucks too. My opinion is that those who have an inability to not click something have ruined what could have been an interesting discussion, I think their approach is doing severe harm in the world, which pains me beyond words (no-one quiz me on this because under the rule modification I cannot explain my opinion). However, this is Seth's forum and I respect his right to make decisions he sees an necessary. I'd be the first to say that whenever a decision must be made on the forum you're always gonna piss off a decent amount of people, and people who are unhappy are almost always more vocal than people who are happy, it's never an easy situation to be in.

Yes free-speech is gone on this one front but it remains unchanged on all others and if anyone is concerned that this signals a change of policy towards making this a place where controversy is banned, "undesirables" removed, and offence silenced then they needn't worry. You'll know to worry about that the day I leave the forum in search of somewhere else.

My final words on this are to say a big thank you to many people here (I'm sorry I can't list you all, you'll know who you are though). I feel I've been vilified by some sections here, and I've found it tough. The support I've received from many of you is what kept me going through all this. The support I received via liked posts, replies to threads, on Skype, and by PM really meant a lot to me so if you were one of those people, thank you.

Best and worst of Ferdinand .....
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Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
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Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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07-07-2013, 11:35 PM
RE: A message from Seth
Thank Seth and the Flying Spaghetti Monster that this is finally an end to this chapter of issue Smile

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07-07-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: A message from Seth
(07-07-2013 11:35 PM)Logisch Wrote:  Thank Seth and the Flying Spaghetti Monster that this is finally an end to this chapter of issue Smile

Logisch? You're alive!?

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07-07-2013, 11:57 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2013 12:00 AM by Atothetheist.)
RE: A message from Seth
My only gripe about it was that I essentially took a beating, got called names and had to defend the undesirables for essentially no pay off.

I guess emotions win over rationality.

But whatever, at least people aren't at each others throats over it.

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07-07-2013, 11:57 PM
RE: A message from Seth
(07-07-2013 11:54 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 11:35 PM)Logisch Wrote:  Thank Seth and the Flying Spaghetti Monster that this is finally an end to this chapter of issue Smile

Logisch? You're alive!?

Yes. Was anyone under the impression I was dead? Cause that'd be no bueno Tongue

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