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25-03-2013, 04:23 PM
RE: A new case against gay marriage.
Don't contribute to society and so shouldn't then be recognized by the state you say?

Who the fuck do you think adopts all those little orphan babies that you straight people didn't want to raise yourselves? Ahhh hello!

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25-03-2013, 10:02 PM
RE: A new case against gay marriage.
(17-03-2013 10:57 PM)That Atheist Coydog Wrote:  In an article that was brought to my attention atheists bring up an actual, non-religious case against gay marriage. : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082190/posts

Quite honestly, this troubles me quite a bit, I have no ideas on how to refute these other than "Do you really think that America needs more people?" I read through all of the argument and some of the comments, but after a few minutes I started to get depressed, so I just stopped.

Anyways... what are your thoughts on gay/lesbian marriage?
WTF? A narrow minded view is presented in that article. It's been said already,but there are many hetero marriages that don't produce kids.

And since nobody is forced by the state to propagate anyway,the whole idea is horseshit.

Gay marriage is fine,but the marriage concept in the USA needs major overhaul,IMO.
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25-03-2013, 10:07 PM
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(25-03-2013 04:23 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Don't contribute to society and so shouldn't then be recognized by the state you say?

Who the fuck do you think adopts all those little orphan babies that you straight people didn't want to raise yourselves? Ahhh hello!
Depends. If the orphan babies are not white,then celebrities will adopt them.

Of course,some of those celebs have got to be gay! Big Grin
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26-03-2013, 03:35 AM
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Gays should of course have the option of marriage. Married people in general are better for the society and economy.
But if straight people can be tolerant towards gay marriage, gays should be tolerant towards adopting and raising gypsy children. I love when problems solve themselves Big Grin
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26-03-2013, 04:54 AM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2013 12:55 AM by Doctor X.)
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26-03-2013, 03:13 PM
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(26-03-2013 04:54 AM)Doctor X Wrote:  [font='Times New Roman']I am afraid that arguments against enfranchisement of gays--which includes marriage--are the same arguments to disenfranchise any minority. Same arguments against allowing black people in the military or--Heavens to Betsy--different races to . . . marry! [/font]<img src="http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/DoctorX_photos/Smilies/faint_zps13fc871a.gif" alt="wysiwyg image" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';" />

It all boils down to a prejudice seeking to create a difference to justify the prejudice by enforcing the different. Cannot let blacks _____ because they are uneducated because we cannot educate them because they are uneducatable . . . uneducateable . . . don't take to learnin'. Recall the arguments about "Unit Cohesion" and "would troops accept black commanders?" Same prejudice excuses: simply remove "black/Jewish/Your Minority HERE" and replace with "homosexual."

Excuse me for a bit of politically incorrect thought, but it makes no sense at all... I was a racist homophobe and wanted all the gays and blacks to die a horrible death... I'd really really want them to serve in the military! Why send good white boys to Iraq, in the harm's way?
As for marriage, many people complain about how horrible it is. If I hated gays, I'd gladly inflict upon them the woes of divorce and lawyers, the squabbles after 20 years together, the monogamy and so on. I'd want at least an equal treatment, if we straight men must listen to our wives' nagging bother with our annoying children, how comes gays are allowed to get away without it?!
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26-03-2013, 05:09 PM
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(26-03-2013 03:13 PM)Luminon Wrote:  
(26-03-2013 04:54 AM)Doctor X Wrote:  I am afraid that arguments against enfranchisement of gays--which includes marriage--are the same arguments to disenfranchise any minority. Same arguments against allowing black people in the military or--Heavens to Betsy--different races to . . . marry! <img src="http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/DoctorX_photos/Smilies/faint_zps13fc871a.gif" alt="wysiwyg image" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';" />

It all boils down to a prejudice seeking to create a difference to justify the prejudice by enforcing the different. Cannot let blacks _____ because they are uneducated because we cannot educate them because they are uneducatable . . . uneducateable . . . don't take to learnin'. Recall the arguments about "Unit Cohesion" and "would troops accept black commanders?" Same prejudice excuses: simply remove "black/Jewish/Your Minority HERE" and replace with "homosexual."

Excuse me for a bit of politically incorrect thought, but it makes no sense at all... I was a racist homophobe and wanted all the gays and blacks to die a horrible death... I'd really really want them to serve in the military! Why send good white boys to Iraq, in the harm's way?
As for marriage, many people complain about how horrible it is. If I hated gays, I'd gladly inflict upon them the woes of divorce and lawyers, the squabbles after 20 years together, the monogamy and so on. I'd want at least an equal treatment, if we straight men must listen to our wives' nagging bother with our annoying children, how comes gays are allowed to get away without it?!
OR if you really supported gays you WOULDN'T want to inflict the horrors of marriage one them.

So what you are saying is.. you're actually anti-gay because you wish for them to get married and live horrible miserable lives? Dodgy Fucking homophobes...

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26-03-2013, 05:45 PM
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Let them marry and be as miserable as the rest of us.

"Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended, or that a jewish minx should tell a lie?"- David Hume
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26-03-2013, 05:51 PM
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(26-03-2013 05:09 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  OR if you really supported gays you WOULDN'T want to inflict the horrors of marriage one them.

So what you are saying is.. you're actually anti-gay because you wish for them to get married and live horrible miserable lives? Dodgy Fucking homophobes...
I was just having some politically incorrect fun, nothing serious. I don't have much opinion on gays. Nature made them. They're here. I can see they're acting a bit weird and have a bit weird voice, but I can't say I'm better in that department. Face it, genetics and neurology sometimes sucks.

Now when it comes to Gypsies, these are different. I don't see the Gypsy people when I look at them, I see a tribal memetic entity, or mindset if you want, that controls their behavior. The tribe is a fascinating cultural fossil, a piece of hunter-gatherer society that unfortunately thawed right in the middle of our weak, civilized cities and started wreaking havoc. I might have some ideas on how to help that situation (a limited form of self-government, basically).
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26-03-2013, 05:54 PM
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Well today the SCOTUS thouroghly debunked this entire argument. In a court of law where reason and facts are what matters the oposition to gay marriage is basicaly "No, it's icky"

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