A political dilemma about Human Logic
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01-09-2016, 10:07 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 07:46 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 07:33 AM)KerimF Wrote:  I am afraid that after 5 years of war against the Syrian people supported by the American Elite (under the pretext to save them as they did in Iraq and even in WW2) via their unbeatable CIA Qaeda mercenaries, there is nothing worth to be stolen. But I was surprised that a few kilos of gold belonging to a Syrian trader (living in Aleppo) were stolen recently! though the thieves were also captured.

In Syria, before March 2011, there were not families poorer than the American poor ones. The irony is that the US System helps the world's poor people (as it claims) while it forgets their own ones.
Back to Syria, the poorest Syrian family had at least one complete satellite receiving system (rotating dish, LNB, receiver and colour TV). Thousands of TV channels could be received via satellites (due to the location of Syria). For instance, before war, I had two complete receiving systems in my room, so that I can search on one while I follow a favourite program/movie on the other. I was considered among the mid class, so I was able, at age 50, having my private small swimming pool (filtered, 12m x 5m) outside the city.
Of course, now I lost almost everything that I had; except a very small apartment and a workplace via which I gain my daily bread.
But if the American Elite will kindly stop saving us (stop their 9/11 terror war against Syria), everything we used having, if not more, could be restored in a few years.

Kerim

Now you are blaming America for everything. While it is true some industrialists had economy in Germany, the act of WWII was both begun as a culture war against Communism and the Jewish influence it was thought to have held. Japans desire for an empire like Britain etc.

You are locked in your troubles. As a result you fail to note the isolationism of America pre their enforced involvement in battle in WWII. True, they had been supporting Britain with convoys.

How unprepared America was in equipment is an indication how they did not expect to fight. P39's, P40's and P38's?? Against Zero's and Bf109's? Kasserine Pass showed how unprepared they were. Aircraft lost due to faulty equipment etc. Soldiers throwing equipment away and running as fast as they could. Good job the Commonwealth forces were there to save them.

Not one nation is to blame. Saudis sell their oil to America. Isis sells its oil. It's a gigantic mess. To simply blame America is simplistic and childish.

What you presented is interesting. Thank you.

On the other hand, did you hear me anytime blaming the American common people who form the great majority of America?
I never did it and I have no reason to do it.
Also, what could I gain by blaming anyone?
But many people are raised to hear bad things even in a simple statement as:
"A lion escaped from a zoo and killed a man".
They hear that the teller likely hates lions and/or he looks for the man's revenge.

Are you one of them Consider

In reality, the American common people is like any other people in the world when things are related to politics. They are all powerless in front of their powerful/rich men on top no matter the kind of their ruling system is. The differences we may notice is in how the people are allowed to live their national festivals, ceremonies and shows.
About the so-called free election in America, I knew, since long ago, that H. Clinton will succeed Obama. She was already prepared (as Bush junior and Obama were) to play in the international endless series of 'War on Terror'. This great woman commanded, via TV, all armed mercenaries (presented as rebels) who were entering from Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Turkey and attacking our Syrian towns, cities and highways: "Don't put down your arms, America stands with you till your country be free and democratic". Yes, it is the same broken song that Bush junior used singing before helping the Iraqi people live in a free democratic country since year 2003 Thumbsup

Sorry but is it wrong if I say: "Attacking other countries in the name of freedom and democracy is also the tenets of the American Elite who are ruling the American People"?

Didn't you notice that the top men in charge of the USA system were undressed almost completely, mainly before their people, after they attacked Syria, thinking it is another Somalia or even Libya?

And if Europeans will not wake up very soon and see what their systems (submitted to the American one since after WW2, despite all tales which present them as being independent) are preparing for them in the next decades, their Europe will be flamed by the CIA 9/11 terror more than WW2 did.

Perhaps I am wrong, but from my long observations I concluded that whoever trust the American Elite has to expect being doomed, sooner or later (after using him, of course). Some say this is natural in politics. So I am fortunate for being just a free independent observer who, therefore, lives far from it Wink

Kerim

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
Whoever has ears will hear.
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01-09-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 10:07 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Perhaps I am wrong.

Yes, you are wrong.
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01-09-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(31-08-2016 04:35 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Oh, and all Californians have the sexual morals of cats on Syrian streets, dont forget this! Kerim says so!

I real wonder why you all had to think that I was referring to Californians?

I was simply referring to those who claim being civilized and use being very proud for having the chance to live in country (California or else in USA) where a person can live his sexual desires even better than the cats in any city, not ours only, do Tongue

I have now the impression that most here know something not encouraging about California, that I don't know, to the point they focused on it only while forgetting it is just one of the many states in the FREE USA and in the FREE World Big Grin

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Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
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01-09-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 10:15 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 10:07 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Perhaps I am wrong.

Yes, you are wrong.

So you know what is right... Please say it.
Otherwise, you better say: "I am told you are wrong but I don't know why for sure".

Kerim

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01-09-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 11:04 AM)KerimF Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 10:15 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Yes, you are wrong.

So you know what is right... Please say it.

I have already posted, previously, all through this thread (Along with others) as to why you are wrong. Please return, re-read and try and understand the replies to you posts.


(01-09-2016 11:04 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Otherwise, you better say: "I am told you are wrong but I don't know why for sure".

Kerim

The above is a different statement.

You asked/posted:

"Perhaps I am wrong."

My reply is a confirmation that yes, you are wrong.
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01-09-2016, 11:11 AM (This post was last modified: 01-09-2016 11:23 AM by Deesse23.)
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 10:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  
(31-08-2016 04:35 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Oh, and all Californians have the sexual morals of cats on Syrian streets, dont forget this! Kerim says so!

I real wonder why you all had to think that I was referring to Californians?

I was simply referring to those who claim being civilized and use being very proud for having the chance to live in country (California or else in USA) where a person can live his sexual desires even better than the cats in any city, not ours only, do Tongue

I have now the impression that most here know something not encouraging about California, that I don't know, to the point they focused on it only while forgetting it is just one of the many states in the FREE USA and in the FREE World Big Grin

Kerim

So its not particularly Californians but random Americans across the USA?

How do you know that
Quote:a person can live his sexual desires even better than the cats in any city
in the USA?

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01-09-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 10:07 AM)KerimF Wrote:  This great woman commanded, via TV, all armed mercenaries (presented as rebels) who were entering from Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Turkey and attacking our Syrian towns, cities and highways:

How you do you know that this what you saw on TV was not staged/faked to make you believe exactly what you believe now? You are the one consantly poining out everybody else here is gullible because their evidence is youtube (which it isnt). How is your TV "evidence" any better than anyone elses "youtube evidence"? Because it is your evidence?

Why was it not the big conspirators make you believe Clinton will win, so they can distract from the fact that for real they are going to have Trump elected, who already made it clear on TV as well, that he will be much more agressive to "foreign threats" to the USA?

How do you know the long term plan is not getting Sanders elected in 2020 and Trump is only a tool to start brining down the USA? So he can make socialist laws, destroy the american economy and society, then a big war will be triggered and we will have the 1billion dead people you predicted?

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01-09-2016, 11:25 AM (This post was last modified: 01-09-2016 11:30 AM by KerimF.)
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(30-08-2016 12:52 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(30-08-2016 08:39 AM)KerimF Wrote:  We are much alike.


In your dreams only.

Quote: You, too, keep repeating the broken song titled: "conspiracy shit" without adding the real version of any fact I presented that you personal consider as being true and real and by using your own words.


Facts? I must have missed them, hidden behind pile of rambling. Also I already pointed to you thay your delusions about Nazis are just that, delusions. There is no reason to bother with anything else till you back your claims.

Quote:Where is the problem?


In your ignorance.

Quote: You also believe too much the stories that suited your desires and dreams even if the facts on the ground contradict most parts in them.


Sute. Whatever make you feel better.

It is called projection I believe.

Quote: If you will decide someday to be serious, you can always pick up a fact I mentioned and show me the true version you have in mind as clearly as I do.


You think that I'm not serious cause I don't agree with your delusions?

Quote: But, truth be said, I also understand that not all people in the world could be safe if they decide to be sincere with others about matters related to the powerful/rich class (political or religious) in their environment. And the safety of any member here is more important to me than anything we may say.


Since I started "discussing" with you Illuminati tried to kill me at least five times.

Quote: I am afraid that repeating the word 'conspiracy' can convince those who are not interested in what is real happening in the world in the first place.


Said the leading crank of the forum.


Quote: Anyway, it is not my fault you are not allowed knowing that the 9/11 terrorists have been (still are) terrorizing, attacking and killing (since year 2010) millions of non-American civilians (besides their national forces). So while you repeat... conspiracy theory... conspiracy theory... Al-Qaeda groups in all over the world are serving the diabolic dreams of the powerful/rich American Elite in front of the entire world without problem. I am afraid that even some American communities could also be attacked by terrorists (now in real) anytime their system learn they start having serious doubts about the American endless series of 'War on Terror'.

Your stupid friend, Kerim

Sure buddy. It's exactly as you say*.

Consider this my last answer. You aren't worth wasting any more of my time. Your delusions of grandeur and ignorance were funny for a time. Now though you're simply boring and it is clear to me that no one can convince you that shit you believe in is just false.


*One should not disagree with insane I heard.

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It happened that your presence didn't bring me anything (from your personal observations and analyses) to learn from, other than hearing you saying something like: "Kerim, you are wrong".

So although I will miss your no... no... no..., I will have a fewer posts to read that also don't give me any personal right answer to help me update my illusions and let them be of real stories.

Kerim

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
Whoever has ears will hear.
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01-09-2016, 01:26 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
On the one hand, Kerim, I think we can help you quite a bit with your English skills just by participating here. On the other hand how are you even here?

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01-09-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 01:26 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  On the one hand, Kerim, I think we can help you quite a bit with your English skills just by participating here. On the other hand how are you even here?

Its either

1) Propaganda
2) for the greater good of making Syria a paradise where everyone can feel safe (again: the ones not being locked up)

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