A political dilemma about Human Logic
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02-09-2016, 11:09 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(02-09-2016 10:50 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 09:42 AM)KerimF Wrote:  You said it at last: Big Grin
"These rules are common sense, something you can google..."

You see, you admit that what you call 'common sense' is based on some other's rules of logic... while yours has to be photocopies of theirs.

Its not common sense because google says so, but google says so because its common sense. You are an idiot! Facepalm

Do the common rules of logic apply to you or not?
Do you think anyone (including you) making claims has a"burden of proof"?

or

are you justified to make up your own rules and your own facts?

Okay... To you, if one accepts an idea blindly just because millions, if not trillions, are said to believe it being real and true, he is a normal human being.

Otherwise, if one has to check every idea he may interest him and verify it, using his natural human logic, before accepting it (or not), he has to be an idiot.

In this case, and as you already guessed, I am indeed your idiot person while you enjoy being a normal human Big Grin

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02-09-2016, 11:25 AM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 11:11 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 10:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  I real wonder why you all had to think that I was referring to Californians?

I was simply referring to those who claim being civilized and use being very proud for having the chance to live in country (California or else in USA) where a person can live his sexual desires even better than the cats in any city, not ours only, do Tongue

I have now the impression that most here know something not encouraging about California, that I don't know, to the point they focused on it only while forgetting it is just one of the many states in the FREE USA and in the FREE World Big Grin

Kerim

So its not particularly Californians but random Americans across the USA?

How do you know that
Quote:a person can live his sexual desires even better than the cats in any city
in the USA?

It happened that most of those who were pleased of having such freedom told me they live in the 'free' USA (so I am not sure about Europe, Canada, Australia... etc. Tongue ).
They even asked me not to be jealous for not having their same freedom just because I was born in a country that doesn't have it.
Of course, I didn't tell them, I never felt the need to live... as cats do, sexually speaking... mainly in Fevrary Big Grin

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02-09-2016, 12:27 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 11:20 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 10:07 AM)KerimF Wrote:  This great woman commanded, via TV, all armed mercenaries (presented as rebels) who were entering from Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Turkey and attacking our Syrian towns, cities and highways:

How you do you know that this what you saw on TV was not staged/faked to make you believe exactly what you believe now? You are the one consantly poining out everybody else here is gullible because their evidence is youtube (which it isnt). How is your TV "evidence" any better than anyone elses "youtube evidence"? Because it is your evidence?

Why was it not the big conspirators make you believe Clinton will win, so they can distract from the fact that for real they are going to have Trump elected, who already made it clear on TV as well, that he will be much more agressive to "foreign threats" to the USA?

How do you know the long term plan is not getting Sanders elected in 2020 and Trump is only a tool to start brining down the USA? So he can make socialist laws, destroy the american economy and society, then a big war will be triggered and we will have the 1billion dead people you predicted?

I usually see the fruits on the big picture.

For example, we all witnessed how Bush junior was prepared to save the Iraqi people from their so-called dictator. This elected actor, who had to play the saviour of Iraq, have killed Iraqis and destroyed their properties 1000 times (as a first estimation) what was supposed the Iraqi dictator gas done. So, even on these days, the Iraqi people have no choice but living daily the 9/11 terror (since year 2003) that was introduced first in America by the two great TV actors, Bush junior and Bin-Laden, 15 years ago.

Then, Obama and H. Clinton came to play, before the world, the saviours of Syrians. And, soon later, H. Clinton was replaced by J. Kerry who had to keep urging the FREE world to save Syrians from a dictator. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of CIA mercenaries have been exported into Syria (to play the 9/11 terrorists with us the civilians and well-trained troops with our national forces).

So for Syrians, it was clear since long that H. Clinton is among the best actors, at least in 2nd decade of the 21st century, who were prepared to play in the international endless series 'War on Terror'.

But, on the other hand, I am getting old and I am not sure who were prepared to play the saviours of Europe in the 3rd decade.

Kerim

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02-09-2016, 01:40 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 01:31 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 01:26 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  On the one hand, Kerim, I think we can help you quite a bit with your English skills just by participating here. On the other hand how are you even here?

Its either

1) Propaganda
2) for the greater good of making Syria a paradise where everyone can feel safe (again: the ones not being locked up)

@GirlyMan
On the properties of the link you provided (I always say I don't open any link outside the forum) I read en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Internet_censorship_in_Syria.
This is the first time I hear of such a thing!
But when an army of Al-Qaeda that came from the north via Turkey attacked and occupied the city Idleb, we lost our internet service (ADSL via phone-lines) in Aleppo. The main server of the region was installed in Idleb. A few months later, the ADSL service restarted (using other ways) but at a much lower speed. So I had to use a USB wireless router too in order to download files for my work in electronics and talk to you lately Wink

The only censorship I am aware of is when I liked contacting some American and European sites. I got an apology that says something like: our recent rules restrict us providing any sort of information and/or services (paid or free) if contacted from Syria. For example, since more than 10 years, Microchip and Texas Instruments (in USA) had to close their doors if a request comes from Syria. The number of such loyal companies/corporations to their free democratic systems has increased gradually and rapidly when the White House decided to save Syrians in March 2011.
For instance, I learnt from Syrians who had to live in the Syrian regions occupied by Al-Qaeda (or whatever Islamist name you like) that these Westerner censorship doesn't exist via their servers. So I laugh anytime I hear someone believing that the US-System is anti-Qaeda Big Grin

Yes, everyday I am surprised, from reading your posts, how the today's media can deform rather easily the reality in any region. For example, during 2012 and 2015, I wrote, to pass my time, more than 10,000 comments on Yahoo news. Then, all of sudden, The pages of Yahoo news became without comments Wink
Is it another sort of a Westerner censorship against Syrians or it was for all readers in the world? Only Yahoo and God (who doesn't exist) know Big Grin

@Deesse23
Thank you for your incredible compliment.
You made my few conversations here equivalent to the huge work of the international news agencies (via TV and internet) that spend millions of dollars to tell the world what to believe and what to call conspiracy theories. Thank you.

About Syria, the paradise, it became history (at least for many years to come) after it has been invaded and attacked, since March 2011, by the greatest civilized nation... in the name of Freedom and Democracy (the idols of the modern god) as usual.

Anyway, those who have the hi-tech means to enslave the minds of the world's masses let their followers believe they are real free by helping them be well-informed of their bible Wink

Kerim

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Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
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02-09-2016, 01:50 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(01-09-2016 01:33 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 01:31 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Its either

1) Propaganda
2) for the greater good of making Syria a paradise where everyone can feel safe (again: the ones not being locked up)

3) Syrian Electronic Soldier.

Actually one could say:
3) Syrian Designer in electronic whose business is halted in the name of Freedom and Democracy Tongue

So you can be sure that the time the American Elite stop saving Syrians, I will have no more the free time to post in this forum. So pray every night that war in Syria will not end, because I know... you will miss me if it ends Big Grin

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Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
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02-09-2016, 01:53 PM (This post was last modified: 02-09-2016 02:01 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(02-09-2016 01:40 PM)KerimF Wrote:  @GirlyMan
On the properties of the link you provided (I always say I don't open any link outside the forum) I read en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Internet_censorship_in_Syria.
This is the first time I hear of such a thing!

That's an interesting account. Thanks! The problems you have with ordering from US websites is that Syria is a "sanctioned" country and requires special licenses for some items. Why can't you get parts from Asia or Europe?

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02-09-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(02-09-2016 06:55 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 06:20 AM)KerimF Wrote:  If anyone here has a better 'personal' view on how the today's Israel was created (that even many Jews in the world feel ashamed because of it), please know that I am all ears.

I note -and everybody else does too- that you conventiently ignore anything that exposes you as the ignoramous you are.

Asserting something without any evidence to back it up, and then asking others for a better explanation is called an "argument from ignorance" in places where real logic is being applied, which surprisingly fits very well to your general ignorance of so many things.
Is this your "personal logic"? To any educated person in the world this is a logic fallacy and not an logic argument.

So what do you think of the "burden of proof" (that i asked you about earlier, and which you conveniently ignored) that anyone has who presents a claim? Do you consider yourself and you rarguments to be "above" this rule, or why do you keep spamming assertions without any foundation? Or is this a rule that you think applies to you and your claims? Obviously not, otherwise you wuldnt consistently try to deflect by asking others about their "personal view" on things. If you would be so interested in others "personal" view of things, you wouldnt post your view (without being asked for it) over and over and over. Repeating your unfounded nonsense doesnt make it true. It just shows what an ignoramus you are.
So, burden of proof: Your "personal view" on this is?

I also asked you how and why anything you base your (ignorant) views on has more credibility than anyting anyone of TTA would dig up.
I am still waiting!

Your "personal view" is a red herring, its irrelevant to anything in this universe. Anybody can have a personal opionon on anything. The point is: is it worth considering to others?
So why should anyone here take your "opinion" as anyting else than it is, the verbal diarreha of an ignoramus.
So, why should anyone here take anyting you say serious? Why are you even here?

Please tell me, why you can't say simply "I have no better or other view than yours"?

And in case, you have, why do you fear telling me about it using your own words?!

You cannot deny that I never asked someone to accept what I say. In the contrary, I look always forwards hearing some others who are able presenting their views as I do... but far from quoting (because, me too, I can anytime search in the modern bible... Truth be said, I do this, once a while, to explore other's works in electronics though none of them happened to suit my needs, so I had to find every solution by myself).

In brief, we turn on an endless loop. At least we do some sport Big Grin

Kerim

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Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
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02-09-2016, 02:34 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(02-09-2016 01:53 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(02-09-2016 01:40 PM)KerimF Wrote:  @GirlyMan
On the properties of the link you provided (I always say I don't open any link outside the forum) I read en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Internet_censorship_in_Syria.
This is the first time I hear of such a thing!

That's an interesting account. Thanks! The problems you have with ordering from US websites is that Syria is a "sanctioned" country and requires special licenses for some items. Why can't you get parts from Asia or Europe?

You are right. This is why I said that Al-Qaeda fighters in Syria are fortunate for being viewed as allies to the US rulers, hence they don't deserve being treated as in the case of the Syrian people.

This reminds me a very ancient story (fiction or not) that you may heard of.
In this story and also in the name of Democracy, a people asked their rulers to release and free their criminal from prison and crucify in his place a man who, according to the story, was doing good things only to many of them. So I am not surprised, at all, seeing how Democracy is applied on these days. After all, this kind of democracy is already known or heard of by men since too many centuries.

Kerim

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Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
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02-09-2016, 02:41 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
At work.

Facepalm @ KerimF.
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02-09-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: A political dilemma about Human Logic
(02-09-2016 10:45 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  @moderators

Isnt it about time to move this thread to the subforum "Pseudoscience and Conspiracy theories", since the OP is nothing but spamming and countlessly repeating...well, conspiracy theories (about WWI, WWII, holocaust, War with Iraq, current events in Syria, social and political situation in about any country one can imagine, etc.)?

Sorry, I wish you agree that when you join a thread started by me, Kerim, you accept to live in a free realm in which there is one rule applied. It is about respecting other's feelings, views and beliefs.

But I also knew that this variety of subjects here breaks one of the rules you used following since long. And it hurts you seeing it... broken by a stranger who didn't use being limited by it (the rule you mentioned above).

After all, please don't tell me you believe my words have influence (if any) on readers more than yours.
So when I write something that you think it is wrong or bad, you just need adding to it the right or good version of it... In this case, someone can read both and he may likely add to them his different third view Big Grin

Yes, life is supposed to be simple... But some people insist complicating it Consider

Kerim


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