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23-10-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: AA - Atheists and Alcoholism
If you were treating an alcoholic you should know what the latest developments are. You can't get away from it. If a patient comes to you and asks you what the latest developments are in treatment of alcoholism you should know or ask a specialist.

The most senior people in alcoholism in every country in the world know about this. You would have to have lived in a cave for the past 5 years not to know about it as a doctor treating alcoholism.

Nalmafene has now been approved for use in alcoholism in Europe. Baclofen is supported by George Koob in the US, by Jonathan Chick in the UK and is the main development in alcoholism at the present time.

Here's what you do if you want to help a patient, you do a tiny bit of research:

http://baclofentreatment.com/background/...-baclofen/
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23-10-2016, 01:30 PM
RE: AA - Atheists and Alcoholism
And here is Dr. Leggio from the US NIH at Bethesda talking about the same issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWpbqCPm4Q8

All gastroenterologists treating liver disease know about it.

The senior editor of the Oxford Journal of Alcoholism has supported it as well:
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/Baclofen%20...son_A0.pdf

It has been on the news years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXbR37GeRiI
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23-10-2016, 02:24 PM
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(23-10-2016 01:21 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  If you were treating an alcoholic you should know what the latest developments are. You can't get away from it. If a patient comes to you and asks you what the latest developments are in treatment of alcoholism you should know or ask a specialist.

Why should they? My doc referred me to a shrink.

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23-10-2016, 02:59 PM
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Quote:My doc referred me to a shrink.

Me too basically

She had me drop back in 3 days into detox to take my blood pressure and pulse. She told me if I started feeling real bad to call 911. Then she sent me to a shrink and told me to go to
AA. She's an atheist as well. She said to just ignore the God stuff. So that's what I did.
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23-10-2016, 03:01 PM
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If it works for you cool it doesn't for me though
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23-10-2016, 03:53 PM
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(23-10-2016 03:01 PM)adey67 Wrote:  If it works for you cool it doesn't for me though

What's your situation?
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23-10-2016, 06:11 PM
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(23-10-2016 07:44 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(22-10-2016 07:10 PM)Chas Wrote:  Have you any support for this claim?

What else could it be other than out of whack neurotransmitters, Chasmeister? Certainly not a lack of willpower or character defect (which themselves are also out of whack neurotransmitters).

How about out of whack metabolization of alcohol?
What do you identify as the proximate cause vs. the root cause of alcoholism? Consider

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23-10-2016, 06:13 PM
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(23-10-2016 03:01 PM)adey67 Wrote:  If it works for you cool it doesn't for me though

Have you had treatment for alcoholism? Do you get peer support?

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24-10-2016, 08:13 AM
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(23-10-2016 06:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-10-2016 03:01 PM)adey67 Wrote:  If it works for you cool it doesn't for me though

Have you had treatment for alcoholism? Do you get peer support?
I did rehab twice and AA for years until I became atheist I tried to keep it up but the woo and cult like doctrines both in meetings and the big book of AA got too much for me to stomach.
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24-10-2016, 08:17 AM
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Are you staying sober?
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