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06-06-2016, 03:57 PM
RE: About the Testimonium Flavium
(06-06-2016 03:40 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Bishop Eusebius, the official propagandist for Constantine, entitles the 32nd Chapter of his 12th Book of Evangelical Preparation:

"How it may be Lawful and Fitting to use Falsehood as a Medicine and for the Benefit of those who Want to be Deceived."

Eusebius is famously the author of many great falsehoods, yet at the same time he warns us:

"We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity."
Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, Vol. 8, chapter 2

So ... if he did it, he would say he done good.

Hey thanks Buicky for finding the original quote. I'd only just awoken. Thumbsup

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06-06-2016, 04:00 PM
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No scholar ever questioned the entire OT until recently either.
The fact it was accepted as true until archaeology proved it false, is irrelevant.
The length of time a falsehood is accepted is irrelevant.

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06-06-2016, 04:03 PM
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(06-06-2016 03:40 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  This is just revisionism. No scholar anywhere raised any doubts about the historical fact that Jesus existed as a historical figure until very recently.

Like Voltaire? Born 21 November 1694, died 30 May 1778 (aged 83).

Yeah that is pretty recent. Facepalm

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06-06-2016, 04:26 PM (This post was last modified: 06-06-2016 04:31 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: About the Testimonium Flavium
(06-06-2016 04:03 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 03:40 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  This is just revisionism. No scholar anywhere raised any doubts about the historical fact that Jesus existed as a historical figure until very recently.

Like Voltaire? Born 21 November 1694, died 30 May 1778 (aged 83).

Yeah that is pretty recent. Facepalm

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06-06-2016, 04:26 PM
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(06-06-2016 04:03 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 03:40 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  This is just revisionism. No scholar anywhere raised any doubts about the historical fact that Jesus existed as a historical figure until very recently.

Like Voltaire? Born 21 November 1694, died 30 May 1778 (aged 83).

Yeah that is pretty recent. Facepalm

Maybe he meant "no TRUE scholar" Tongue
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06-06-2016, 05:46 PM
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(06-06-2016 04:26 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 04:03 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Like Voltaire? Born 21 November 1694, died 30 May 1778 (aged 83).

Yeah that is pretty recent. Facepalm

I only come here for the unqualified assertions from unqualified posters. They are an unending source of amusement.

So, you read Voltaire? Which works?

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06-06-2016, 05:48 PM
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(06-06-2016 04:26 PM)skyking Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 04:03 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Like Voltaire? Born 21 November 1694, died 30 May 1778 (aged 83).

Yeah that is pretty recent. Facepalm

Maybe he meant "no TRUE scholar" Tongue

Yeah, if one knows nothing about Voltaire, it is hard to take one seriously on an atheist website about this topic.

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06-06-2016, 06:14 PM (This post was last modified: 06-06-2016 07:06 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: About the Testimonium Flavium
(06-06-2016 05:46 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 04:26 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I only come here for the unqualified assertions from unqualified posters. They are an unending source of amusement.

So, you read Voltaire? Which works?

Candide is the only one I read seriously 'cause I had to write a report in Uni. I got a lot of aphorisms from him in my toolbag but my favorite will always be:

“Now, now my good man, this is no time to be making enemies."
(Voltaire on his deathbed in response to a priest asking him that he renounce Satan.)”

There is some dispute over this. But you know what? I don't give a fuck. It's brilliant.

It's even better than Oscar Wilde's wallpaper.

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06-06-2016, 06:36 PM
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"Il faut cultiver son jardin" ... end of Candide.
Bucky's philosophy.
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06-06-2016, 08:48 PM
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(06-06-2016 05:48 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(06-06-2016 04:26 PM)skyking Wrote:  Maybe he meant "no TRUE scholar" Tongue

Yeah, if one knows nothing about Voltaire, it is hard to take one seriously on an atheist website about this topic.

I don't think GirlyBob meant you. Drinking Beverage

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