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21-08-2015, 07:23 PM
Absence of evidence
Just going to leave this here...



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21-08-2015, 07:30 PM (This post was last modified: 21-08-2015 07:37 PM by Free.)
RE: Absence of evidence
(21-08-2015 07:23 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  Just going to leave this here...




But ... Evidence of Absence is evidence of the absence of positive evidence.

"Evidence of absence is evidence of any kind that suggests something is missing or that it does not exist. For example:

If Alice bakes a pie, she then always places the pie on her window-sill.
She did not place a pie on her window-sill.
Therefore, Alice did not bake a pie.

Since it necessarily follows from the first premise that Alice will place the pie on her window-sill every time she bakes one, upon observing that there is in fact no pie on the window-sill, we can deduce that Alice did not bake a pie. This argument is called modus tollens in propositional logic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence

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21-08-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Absence of evidence
(21-08-2015 07:30 PM)Free Wrote:  
(21-08-2015 07:23 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  Just going to leave this here...




But ... Evidence of Absence is evidence of the absence of positive evidence.

"Evidence of absence is evidence of any kind that suggests something is missing or that it does not exist. For example:

If Alice bakes a pie, she then always places the pie on her window-sill.
She did not place a pie on her window-sill.
Therefore, Alice did not bake a pie.

Since it necessarily follows from the first premise that Alice will place the pie on her window-sill every time she bakes one, upon observing that there is in fact no pie on the window-sill, we can deduce that Alice did not bake a pie. This argument is called modus tollens in propositional logic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence

Yes, that was thoroughly pointed out in the video as well.
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21-08-2015, 08:02 PM
RE: Absence of evidence
Free, do you think it's possible that there is life elsewhere in the universe?
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21-08-2015, 08:09 PM
RE: Absence of evidence
(21-08-2015 08:02 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  Free, do you think it's possible that there is life elsewhere in the universe?

It is plausible because life exists on at least on planet. Which means that we have enough information to postulate that it is plausible. That does not mean life does exist elsewhere, but it is plausible.

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21-08-2015, 08:11 PM
RE: Absence of evidence
(21-08-2015 08:02 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  Free, do you think it's possible that there is life elsewhere in the universe?

Yes, for exactly the same reason as TBD stated above.

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21-08-2015, 08:16 PM
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Do you also think it is possible that there is highly intelligent life, perhaps much more advanced than anything we can imagine?
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21-08-2015, 08:17 PM (This post was last modified: 21-08-2015 08:20 PM by TheBeardedDude.)
RE: Absence of evidence
(21-08-2015 08:16 PM)Matt Finney Wrote:  Do you also think it is possible that there is highly intelligent life, perhaps much more advanced than anything we can imagine?

It is plausible because highly intelligent life exists on at least one planet in the universe. That doesn't mean it does exist elsewhere, but it is plausible.

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21-08-2015, 08:17 PM
RE: Absence of evidence
The absence of evidence that should be there is very much the evidence of absence.

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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21-08-2015, 08:18 PM
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Do you see how this works? If we have evidence of it existing/occurring at least once, then it is plausible. So it is plausible other universes exist, but that doesn't mean they do. Etc, ad nauseam

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