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04-12-2015, 09:10 AM
Acceptance Of Profound-Sounding "Bullsh*t" Linked To Lower Intelligence
Quote: As Marcello Truzzi, a renowned
skeptic and professor of
sociology in the United States,
once said: “An extraordinary
claim requires extraordinary
proof.” This notion
unfortunately doesn’t stop
people the world over from
believing things that are
demonstrably untrue, and a
new study published in the
journal of Judgment and
Decision Making shows that
those who are more receptive
to what the authors term as
“bullshit” tend to be both less
reflective and less intelligent
than their peers.

Profound-sounding
statements, incredibly vague
claims, and scientific-sounding
fakery are all considered to be
“bullshit” by the authors of the
research – who use the
pejorative a record-breaking
200 times in a single academic
paper. An example of this type
of bullshit is as follows:
“Hidden meaning transforms
unparalleled abstract beauty.”
This is inherently meaningless,
but it appears to communicate
something because it appears
to have an organized linguistic
structure we inherently
recognize.

Gordon Pennycook, a Ph.D.
candidate from the University
of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada,
used a website to randomly
generate profound-sounding
phrases to demonstrate the
ease of creating bullshit.
“Healing is the growth of hope,
and of us. We vibrate, we exist,
we are reborn” was the phrase
that we were greeted with upon
visiting the homepage.

Pennycook and a team of
researchers recruited 300 test
subjects to rate the profundity
of these randomly generated
bullshit phrases on a relatively
arbitrary scale of one to five.
On average, the sentences
were rated 2.6, suggesting that
the quotes were halfway
between “somewhat profound”
and “fairly profound.”

[...]

When the individual results
were compared with the
person’s measured numeracy
skills, verbal intelligence,
religious beliefs, and ability to
distinguish between a
metaphorical and a literal
statement, a fairly clear pattern
was revealed. Those who were
more likely to believe
outlandish conspiracy theories,
those that think alternative
medicine is effective, those
with a strong belief in the
paranormal, and those that
confuse metaphors for factual
pieces of information, were
found to not be the most
analytical or intelligent of
people.

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/a...telligence

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04-12-2015, 09:18 AM
RE: Acceptance Of Profound-Sounding "Bullsh*t" Linked To Lower Intelligence
No surprises there. I wonder if they used that Chopra word-salad site to generate the deepities.
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04-12-2015, 12:00 PM
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It's profound enough to exist and to be able to think about it. No bullshit required.

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04-12-2015, 12:39 PM
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Quote:...those with a strong belief in the paranormal, and those that confuse metaphors for factual pieces of information, were found to not be the most analytical or intelligent of people.

The admittedly urbane, articulate William Lane Craig has two doctorates, and currently holds the position of Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University in the US.

So... As Craig obviously believes unequivocally in the paranormal (defined as lying beyond normal experience and/or scientific explanation) does this mean he's unintelligent? He also describes himself as an analytic Christian philosopher. How then does he satisfy the description of being "not be the most analytical or intelligent"?

Or are the quoted study's conclusions subject to some error?

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04-12-2015, 12:49 PM
RE: Acceptance Of Profound-Sounding "Bullsh*t" Linked To Lower Intelligence
(04-12-2015 12:39 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
Quote:...those with a strong belief in the paranormal, and those that confuse metaphors for factual pieces of information, were found to not be the most analytical or intelligent of people.

The admittedly urbane, articulate William Lane Craig has two doctorates, and currently holds the position of Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University in the US.

So... As Craig obviously believes unequivocally in the paranormal (defined as lying beyond normal experience and/or scientific explanation) does this mean he's unintelligent? He also describes himself as an analytic Christian philosopher. How then does he satisfy the description of being "not be the most analytical or intelligent"?

Or are the quoted study's conclusions subject to some error?

You've never met an idiot with a degree?

Paracelsus is widely regarded as the father of modern toxicology. It could be argued that without his contribution to medicine, we would still be treating migraines by drilling through the skull. That said, were he alive today, practicing medicine the same way that he did back then, I wouldn't use him. He liked to use a bit of astrology in his diagnoses, as well as other magical hoodoo. He was a quack. A groundbreaking quack, but a quack nonetheless. The world is a better place for his existence, but... you know, quack.

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06-12-2015, 08:36 PM
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(04-12-2015 12:39 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
Quote:...those with a strong belief in the paranormal, and those that confuse metaphors for factual pieces of information, were found to not be the most analytical or intelligent of people.

The admittedly urbane, articulate William Lane Craig has two doctorates, and currently holds the position of Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University in the US.

So... As Craig obviously believes unequivocally in the paranormal (defined as lying beyond normal experience and/or scientific explanation) does this mean he's unintelligent? He also describes himself as an analytic Christian philosopher. How then does he satisfy the description of being "not be the most analytical or intelligent"?

Or are the quoted study's conclusions subject to some error?
Your post is good one and merits discussion. In the case of William Lane Craig, even though I am no fan of his, I would not be so presumptuous as to call him unintelligent. That said, intelligence is in no way a measure of wisdom or absence of ignorance. Free thinkers are often stereotyped as being intelligent and it has been my experience that this is often not the case. Those in the scientific community or academics are not above the taint of ignorance, Issac Newton was a brilliant man but he also believed that alchemy was a concept worthy of study. I agree with you about the fallacy of dismissing theists as being stupid. When we atheists stoop to such labeling, we are in fact mirroring the very ignorance we declare to be in opposition to.
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06-12-2015, 10:55 PM
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(04-12-2015 12:39 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
Quote:...those with a strong belief in the paranormal, and those that confuse metaphors for factual pieces of information, were found to not be the most analytical or intelligent of people.

The admittedly urbane, articulate William Lane Craig has two doctorates, and currently holds the position of Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University in the US.

So... As Craig obviously believes unequivocally in the paranormal (defined as lying beyond normal experience and/or scientific explanation) does this mean he's unintelligent? He also describes himself as an analytic Christian philosopher. How then does he satisfy the description of being "not be the most analytical or intelligent"?

Or are the quoted study's conclusions subject to some error?

Both of his PhDs are religious in nature, one in philosophy one in theology. He is a professor at a joke of a school.

He is a delusional charlatan, so whatever intelligence he has is wasted and he shows no skill at analysis as his Kalam argument is a logically flawed piece of crap.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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07-12-2015, 03:38 AM
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Propogation of profound sounding bullshit can be linked to very high levels of intelligence........particularly where's there money to be made out of it.

Hence - L Ron Hubbard, Deepak Chopra, Ken Ham, Jimmy Swaggert etc.

I'm not sure where Craig sits in this pantheon, but he would appear to have a comfortable lifestyle.
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07-12-2015, 07:15 AM
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http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/

Here are some examples that the bullshit generator gave me. Try it. It's fun.

Quote: Purpose is the nature of faith,
and of us. To follow the mission
is to become one with it.

Yes, it is possible to obliterate
the things that can disrupt us,
but not without transcendence
on our side.

Through numerology, our brains are
immersed in purpose. You will soon
be re-energized by a power deep
within yourself — a power that is
divine, powerful. As you dream, you
will enter into infinite transformation
that transcends understanding.

It is time to take will to the next level.
The future will be a psychic
blossoming of knowledge. It is in
evolving that we are re-energized.

Only a traveller of the multiverse
may generate this transmission of
transcendence. Yearning is born in
the gap where empathy has been
excluded. You must take a stand
against yearning.

Today, science tells us that the
essence of nature is insight. Nothing
is impossible. Coherence is a
constant.

The Law of Attraction may be the
solution to what’s holding you back
from an unfathomable flow of
curiosity. How should you navigate
this transformative world? Although
you may not realize it, you are
psychic.

Imagine a redefining of what could
be. We must develop ourselves and
recreate others. Eons from now, we
messengers will exist like never
before as we are re-energized by the
quantum soup.

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07-12-2015, 07:25 AM
RE: Acceptance Of Profound-Sounding "Bullsh*t" Linked To Lower Intelligence
(04-12-2015 12:39 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
Quote:...those with a strong belief in the paranormal, and those that confuse metaphors for factual pieces of information, were found to not be the most analytical or intelligent of people.

The admittedly urbane, articulate William Lane Craig has two doctorates, and currently holds the position of Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University in the US.

So... As Craig obviously believes unequivocally in the paranormal (defined as lying beyond normal experience and/or scientific explanation) does this mean he's unintelligent? He also describes himself as an analytic Christian philosopher. How then does he satisfy the description of being "not be the most analytical or intelligent"?

Or are the quoted study's conclusions subject to some error?

The study doesn't seem to have WLC or folks like him in mind. It appears more centered around folks who make up Chopra's audience, perhaps also Joel Osteen's audience.

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