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21-07-2015, 01:11 PM
Adolescent Science
Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.
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21-07-2015, 01:12 PM
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21-07-2015, 01:16 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:11 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.

So. You went out to the bar and got drunk.
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21-07-2015, 01:19 PM
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I thought he was leaving.......

Yup...

Just like a case of herpes.... Pops up when you least expect it......


Hence "pops".....

It all makes sense now..

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21-07-2015, 01:19 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:11 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.

I would categorize adolescent science being as it was in the 19 century. Back when people refused to conform to radical ideas like "germs" or any of those crazy theories. The only real ways scientific theories that had data demonstrating them would get accepted, was when the old generation died off.

This shifted eventually when scientific academia dropped a lot of that assertive knowledge having claims that reflects religion. Shifting views and changing ideas on what is accepted actually happens within peoples lifetimes now. Amazing how things you think need to happen actually do exist and happen in the current world sometimes.
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21-07-2015, 01:21 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:11 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.

By definition, no one human discipline can describe infinity. Criticizing it for this shortcoming doesn't seem merited.
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21-07-2015, 01:33 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:11 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.

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There is science.....supported by falsifiable and supportive evidence....and philosophical musings of "wouldn't it be great if....the Great Pumpkin existed"...ONe is based in verifiable fact, one is based on faith.

Faith - the belief in something without evidence.

Delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. A belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

Religion - The embracement of delusion.

Science is the antithesis of faith. Science is a process that contains multiple and redundant checks, balances, and safeguards against human bias and error. Science has a built in corrective mechanism..hypothesis testing...that weeds out false claims. Claims that come about as a result of a scientific process are held as tentatively true by scientists..unlike claims of faith that are held as eternally true with zero evidence. Related to this, claims that come about as a result of a scientific process are falsifiable, that is, there is a way to show the claims are false. This is not the case with faith claims. For example, there's no way to falisify the claim that the norse god Loki was able ot assume other forms.

Scientists try to prove claims false (falsification), unlike faith leaders who unequivocally state their faith claims are true. If a scientist can demonstrate that a popular scientific claim is false, he or she can become famous, get tenure, publish books, earn more money and become respected by her or his peers. If a preacher states that the claims of his faith tradition are false, he's excommunicated, defrocked or otherwise forced to abandon his position...the stifling of growth and enlightenment basically.

Science is a method for advancing our understanding. It is process we can use to bring us closer to the truth, and to weed out false claims. Science thus is the best way we've currently found to explain and understand how the universe works...

I see you are a glutton for punishment, or in a moment of personal crisis, do you need to perhaps go over to the personal issues and support subforum and we can let you get it all out, offer some kind and supportive words, maybe even some sage advice...but you are evidently and apparently going through a crisis...my theory is you are in battle with your inner doubt, all believers fight that, it is okay to admit, I am sure even the Pope fights it at some level....to believe in something unproven and "transcendental" requires faith, and along with that comes doubt, unless you are truly gullible and think it is all the literate truth as it was sold to you....

Come forth pops, testify, come tell us your fears, doubts and worries....a lot of us are ex christians and are fluent in the language, and understand the journey.


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21-07-2015, 02:07 PM
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(21-07-2015 01:33 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  
(21-07-2015 01:11 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science is young if perceived through written history. In it's youth it is proud and arrogant. It takes much gratification in knowing of what has been proved to it. It has seen only that which has been revealed. It is wondrous advancement no doubt. But in wondering has lost meaning. Science can plot a singular scenario accurately. This is good. Science cannot ever efficiently predict or even solve every infinite scenario, ever. It is infinite, henceforth unattainable through mere counting. Science will no doubt grow. This growth must be relative to productive society as opposed to producing instances. To see what is relative to existence one might take up a more philosophical view. Indeed more mature and not assuming. Indeed the father of science.

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There is science.....supported by falsifiable and supportive evidence....and philosophical musings of "wouldn't it be great if....the Great Pumpkin existed"...ONe is based in verifiable fact, one is based on faith.

Faith - the belief in something without evidence.

Delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. A belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

Religion - The embracement of delusion.

Science is the antithesis of faith. Science is a process that contains multiple and redundant checks, balances, and safeguards against human bias and error. Science has a built in corrective mechanism..hypothesis testing...that weeds out false claims. Claims that come about as a result of a scientific process are held as tentatively true by scientists..unlike claims of faith that are held as eternally true with zero evidence. Related to this, claims that come about as a result of a scientific process are falsifiable, that is, there is a way to show the claims are false. This is not the case with faith claims. For example, there's no way to falisify the claim that the norse god Loki was able ot assume other forms.

Scientists try to prove claims false (falsification), unlike faith leaders who unequivocally state their faith claims are true. If a scientist can demonstrate that a popular scientific claim is false, he or she can become famous, get tenure, publish books, earn more money and become respected by her or his peers. If a preacher states that the claims of his faith tradition are false, he's excommunicated, defrocked or otherwise forced to abandon his position...the stifling of growth and enlightenment basically.

Science is a method for advancing our understanding. It is process we can use to bring us closer to the truth, and to weed out false claims. Science thus is the best way we've currently found to explain and understand how the universe works...

I see you are a glutton for punishment, or in a moment of personal crisis, do you need to perhaps go over to the personal issues and support subforum and we can let you get it all out, offer some kind and supportive words, maybe even some sage advice...but you are evidently and apparently going through a crisis...my theory is you are in battle with your inner doubt, all believers fight that, it is okay to admit, I am sure even the Pope fights it at some level....to believe in something unproven and "transcendental" requires faith, and along with that comes doubt, unless you are truly gullible and think it is all the literate truth as it was sold to you....

Come forth pops, testify, come tell us your fears, doubts and worries....a lot of us are ex christians and are fluent in the language, and understand the journey.


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Yeah... Open your fucking ears!

Science can not predict or know anything that is of any significance without a fucking direction. Every equation has infinite variables even if you pretend it doesn't. It is a tool for breaking down things that we already know on some other level. Most, anyway.
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21-07-2015, 02:08 PM
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(21-07-2015 02:07 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Science can not predict or know anything that is of any significance without a fucking direction. Every equation has infinite variables even if you pretend it doesn't. It is a tool for breaking down things that we already know on some other level. Most, anyway.

Do you even math? Your statement is utter nonsense. Facepalm

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21-07-2015, 02:20 PM
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Math is true knowledge and truthfully science.
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