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23-07-2015, 12:41 AM
RE: Adolescent Science
(22-07-2015 11:47 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  No. Time had to start at some point.

I am pretty sure that 'time' started 'with' the very, initial expansion of everything. Heck, that the boffins now think there was a period of 'hyper inflation' might mean that time wasn't actually present at such an early stage and only 'condensed' into reality as things got 'cooler'/'far enough apart'.


(22-07-2015 11:47 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Yes I believe in creation/ good/ God.

*sigh*

Great, you believe in a deity. Where does it live/exist?

How about you start by giving us all a base line of your education/knowledge.

There just seem to be so many things you simply have no clue about.
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23-07-2015, 01:00 AM
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Peebothuhul,

For your first statement; exactly my point. I do not believe in a deity. It is everywhere, literally in all creation. It was seperate from the substances that all else is made of yet the same. It resides in everything to some extent. That includes other dimensions, realms, or states of mass.
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23-07-2015, 01:08 AM
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If what you just said is true, Pops, then you're a Deist. Or at most, a Unitarian Universalist.

No shame in that, both Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson, two of the main reasons my country exists, were Deists.

You should look into what they had to say about the Bible. Jefferson, in particular, went through the whole thing and cut out all the miracles and magical claptrap to leave Jesus' teachings about treating others nicely.

Didn't earn him a lot of love, at the time. Several of our other Founding Fathers were also of similar beliefs. Don't accept modern Christianity's revisionism of the historical fact; look it up for yourself. Cheers and g'nite. Smile

"Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?" - E. O. Wilson
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23-07-2015, 01:10 AM
RE: Adolescent Science
(23-07-2015 01:00 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Peebothuhul,

For your first statement; exactly my point. I do not believe in a deity. It is everywhere, literally in all creation. It was seperate from the substances that all else is made of yet the same. It resides in everything to some extent. That includes other dimensions, realms, or states of mass.

Um.. that's answering my second part/statement?

Okay, so you have this deity that is some how every where.

How does it interact (Even with itself) over distance? How does it know what is happening in two, very widely separated, part of reality?

If it resides 'In' everything... how might we detect that everything has 'It'?

You completely missed my point about time, didn't you? Undecided
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23-07-2015, 01:17 AM
RE: Adolescent Science
(23-07-2015 01:10 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(23-07-2015 01:00 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Peebothuhul,

For your first statement; exactly my point. I do not believe in a deity. It is everywhere, literally in all creation. It was seperate from the substances that all else is made of yet the same. It resides in everything to some extent. That includes other dimensions, realms, or states of mass.

Um.. that's answering my second part/statement?

Okay, so you have this deity that is some how every where.

How does it interact (Even with itself) over distance? How does it know what is happening in two, very widely separated, part of reality?

If it resides 'In' everything... how might we detect that everything has 'It'?

You completely missed my point about time, didn't you? Undecided
I may not be able to answer a question like how does it interact with itself. I have input that I refuse to examine due to its nature. I'm sure you will think silly of me but I must be humble. I can't presume to know, or state the inner workings of the Lord. Maybe after I put some thought into it but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

I will say that it is in everything though. In only small amounts seemingly, but these levels can fluctuate freely.
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23-07-2015, 01:17 AM
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Distance is literally know thing in terms of God
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23-07-2015, 01:19 AM
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Woe... No thing
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23-07-2015, 01:21 AM
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(23-07-2015 01:17 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I may not be able to answer a question like how does it interact with itself. I have input that I refuse to examine due to its nature. I'm sure you will think silly of me but I must be humble. I can't presume to know, or state the inner workings of the Lord. Maybe after I put some thought into it but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

I will say that it is in everything though. In only small amounts seemingly, but these levels can fluctuate freely.

I am not asking you to some how know the mind of a deity. I'm asking you how such a deity... that is within our reality, could possibly, actually work if some how within our reality.

Again, if it is some how inside everything.. how might we go about detecting/finding it?

(23-07-2015 01:17 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Distance is literally know thing in terms of God

*sigh* No, no it is not. This post is... odd/off/strange....
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23-07-2015, 01:56 AM
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It works through every little thing that is good. You can catch them with real Faith. They actually come in without seeking them. It is miraculous. But yeah maybe you mean bigger events. Well existence actually singled me out and proved to me personally that I had a destined path that I could go down, and that it had been by my side through my oblivion. Still bigger events? Extinction events are the work of God usually. He set everything along its path a kazilion years ago and it makes shit happen still like astronomical events. Talking relative to everything all the time. It is all and without form. Everything that is is the same on a quantum level. With that being said; God could literally do anything. Miracles? No problem- evertthing is the same or really similar outside of the physical plane so it can take on whatever form it is willed to be. Hope that helped.
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23-07-2015, 02:22 AM
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(23-07-2015 01:56 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  It works through every little thing that is good. You can catch them with real Faith. They actually come in without seeking them. It is miraculous. But yeah maybe you mean bigger events. Well existence actually singled me out and proved to me personally that I had a destined path that I could go down, and that it had been by my side through my oblivion. Still bigger events? Extinction events are the work of God usually. He set everything along its path a kazilion years ago and it makes shit happen still like astronomical events. Talking relative to everything all the time. It is all and without form. Everything that is is the same on a quantum level. With that being said; God could literally do anything. Miracles? No problem- evertthing is the same or really similar outside of the physical plane so it can take on whatever form it is willed to be. Hope that helped.

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Okay.... Yah, I got nithin'.
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