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10-01-2012, 02:50 PM
 
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  And what I mean is people that don't believe in God are going to find evidence and say that it proves there isn't a God.


Wrong again! Atheist dont go around trying to prove there isnt a god. We simply dont believe in any of the 20000+ gods. Its YOUR responsiblity to PROVE THERE IS A GOD. Dont you see?

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

If i claimed there was a giganitc nipple floating above the suns surface and i had a really old book about it...would you buy it hook line and sinker? Or would you require me to PROVE such a claim?

We see no evidence, so we dont believe. If You invoke faith...well, faith is the absense of logic/reason. Having FAITH in something does not necessarily mean its true.

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10-01-2012, 02:50 PM
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:46 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  
Quote:If you were to simply see the evidence and determine origin you'[d die before you could come to any conclusion.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

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I am not speaking to you as in only you. I suppose I could have said if one instead of if you. And what I mean is people that don't believe in God are going to find evidence and say that it proves there isn't a God. And people that believe in God will find the same evidence and say that it points to and doesn't disprove God's existence.

I don't mean to insult.

I only said "I" because I speak only for me.

I don't believe in your god or any gods not because I have a biased interpretation of the same evidence that you're looking at, but because there isn't any evidence for the existence of gods. The Bible certainly isn't evidence.

Where we might analyze bias is in my interpretation that there is overwhelming evidence against the proposition that there are any gods.

Fair enough.
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10-01-2012, 02:51 PM
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  I am not speaking to you as in only you. I suppose I could have said if one instead of if you. And what I mean is people that don't believe in God are going to find evidence and say that it proves there isn't a God. And people that believe in God will find the same evidence and say that it points to and doesn't disprove God's existence.

I don't mean to insult.

No sweety -you are questioning, you're ok. Mannerly and very mature of you to apologize.
But ... so...
Then, you feel people choose "sides" when seeking the truth?
Like a football game? Something to win? Kinda fucks shit up for people who don't really get into that game... or games at all.
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I think Tweik is doing ok... he's alert and ready for action...

But he's got a lot on his plate for the past several pages and might want a snack or something... (have some protein or an apple -and no pop- godamnit!)

It might be time for all to let things soak in and come back to this after 20 minutes or so. Replenish some brain cells.

Just an idea. Dodgy

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10-01-2012, 02:53 PM
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:50 PM)Denicio Wrote:  
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  And what I mean is people that don't believe in God are going to find evidence and say that it proves there isn't a God.


Wrong again! Atheist dont go around trying to prove there isnt a god. We simply dont believe in any of the 20000+ gods. Its YOUR responsiblity to PROVE THERE IS A GOD. Dont you see?

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

If i claimed there was a giganitc nipple floating above the suns surface and i had a really old book about it...would you buy it hook line and sinker? Or would you require me to PROVE such a claim?

We see no evidence, so we dont believe. If You invoke faith...well, faith is the absense of logic/reason. Having FAITH in something does not necessarily mean its true.

D

So what you are saying is rather than you proving to me there is no God I need to prove to you that there is a God? I see.
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10-01-2012, 02:53 PM
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Quote:You interpret the evidence coming in with a biased view and interpret it to say you are right. Everyone does. If you were to simply see the evidence and determine origin you'[d die before you could come to any conclusion.

I don't think that anyone does that. We interpret the evidence, because we are interested in truth, not because we want to say "I am right".


Strictly on topic:
As far as I know, when a person dies, so does it's brain - so does it's consciousness. There will be no longer "me" after I die. Do I have any reason to believe otherwise?
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10-01-2012, 02:54 PM
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(10-01-2012 02:51 PM)kim Wrote:  Not like I'm being all motherly or anything...
I think Tweik is doing ok... he's alert and ready for action...

But he's got a lot on his plate for the past several pages and might want a snack or something... (have some protein or an apple -and no pop- godamnit!)

It might be time for all to let things soak in and come back to this after 20 minutes or so. Replenish some brain cells.

Just an idea. Dodgy

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10-01-2012, 02:56 PM
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Quote:___________
Not like I'm being all motherly or anything...
I think Tweik is doing ok... he's alert and ready for action...

But he's got a lot on his plate for the past several pages and might want a snack or something... (have some protein or an apple -and no pop- godamnit!)

It might be time for all to let things soak in and come back to this after 20 minutes or so. Replenish some brain cells.

Just an idea. Dodgy

I think I am going to take a break for a bit. I need some food. After all I am a teenager and need to eat a lot. lol. But I will be back.
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10-01-2012, 02:56 PM
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:53 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  
(10-01-2012 02:50 PM)Denicio Wrote:  
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  And what I mean is people that don't believe in God are going to find evidence and say that it proves there isn't a God.


Wrong again! Atheist dont go around trying to prove there isnt a god. We simply dont believe in any of the 20000+ gods. Its YOUR responsiblity to PROVE THERE IS A GOD. Dont you see?

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

If i claimed there was a giganitc nipple floating above the suns surface and i had a really old book about it...would you buy it hook line and sinker? Or would you require me to PROVE such a claim?

We see no evidence, so we dont believe. If You invoke faith...well, faith is the absense of logic/reason. Having FAITH in something does not necessarily mean its true.

D

So what you are saying is rather than you proving to me there is no God I need to prove to you that there is a God? I see.

Exactly!
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10-01-2012, 03:01 PM
 
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:53 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  So what you are saying is rather than you proving to me there is no God I need to prove to you that there is a God? I see.

Look around you, its a natural world. The universe its a naural universe.

You add supernatural (something NOT natural and not of this world) then yeah..you gotta prove it.

THe burdon of proof is on the one making the extrodinary claim.

LOTS of folks have been abducted by aliens (so they say), i dont belive it....lack of proof. Many have seen bigfoot ....i dont buy it for a second.

Why dont you believe in Xenu? He's supernatural.

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10-01-2012, 03:15 PM
RE: Afterlife.
(10-01-2012 02:50 PM)Denicio Wrote:  
(10-01-2012 02:34 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  Wrong again! Atheist dont go around trying to prove there isnt a god. We simply dont believe in any of the 20000+ gods. Its YOUR responsiblity to PROVE THERE IS A GOD. Dont you see?

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

If i claimed there was a giganitc nipple floating above the suns surface and i had a really old book about it...would you buy it hook line and sinker? Or would you require me to PROVE such a claim?

We see no evidence, so we dont believe. If You invoke faith...well, faith is the absense of logic/reason. Having FAITH in something does not necessarily mean its true.

D

So what you are saying is rather than you proving to me there is no God I need to prove to you that there is a God? I see.
We have claimed something and backed it up with Reliable sources/evidence,on the other hand we simply ask you to provide us with the same.

(10-01-2012 03:01 PM)Denicio Wrote:  Look around you, its a natural world. The universe its a naural universe.

You add supernatural (something NOT natural and not of this world) then yeah..you gotta prove it.

THe burdon of proof is on the one making the extrodinary claim.

LOTS of folks have been abducted by aliens (so they say), i dont belive it....lack of proof. Many have seen bigfoot ....i dont buy it for a second.

Why dont you believe in Xenu? He's supernatural.

D
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