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06-09-2015, 10:28 PM
Agnostics Make no sense
I hear it is impossible to prove that gods or nonexistent things don't exist. But let's beg to differ, if that were true, wouldn't that add to the stacks of evidence against the god or nonexistent things? Think, people. Wouldn't that be evidence against those nonexistent things (NTs)? If you look at it that way, there is proof gods are fake. Being that the statement "it's impossible to disprove god" is base on human ideas itself, it's best to keep in mind, that we all know these following things:

1. god or gods (or NT, nonexistent thing) do not communicate with people...and those that say otherwise are schizophrenic (delusional, illusional etc.);

2. all cases of god or gods have been through communication which isn't possible due to the above issue

3. because of those 2 things alone, there exists no evidence for the god(s) existence, which tragically, results to the default position of evidence for the opposing idea (the idea that god or gods or other NTs are fake)

4. and if those 3 aren't enough, there exists an infinite number of nonexistent things that share the same 3 attributes being that the existnece of being(s) that would contradict that of the other god or gods is equally likely, which is impossible.

5. okay, if you're reading this, unfortunately the last 4 weren't good enough for you or you just wanna keep reading. either way, here's the 5th reason:
By logic, if you try to prove god or gods, or better yet things we KNOW do not exist, then you'd fail equally as someone making an attempt to prove something made up, fabricated, lied into peoples minds or created by HP Lovecraft.
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06-09-2015, 10:32 PM
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Atheists make no sense???

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06-09-2015, 10:37 PM
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(06-09-2015 10:28 PM)RadThadd Wrote:  By logic, if you try to prove god or gods, or better yet things we KNOW do not exist, then you'd fail equally as someone making an attempt to prove something made up, fabricated, lied into peoples minds or created by HP Lovecraft.

The concept you are thinking of is that of the garage dragon, which, as you can see, we have discussed at length on this forum previously.

To sum up: no, garage dragons don't exist, and that form of agnosticism is indeed incoherent. There are many people, however, both on this forum and elsewhere, who use "agnosticism" as a label for simply lacking knowledge, not knowledge being impossible, and that's quite fine, if a bit semantically confusing.

Just be sure you don't get the two confused.

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06-09-2015, 10:54 PM
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(06-09-2015 10:37 PM)Unbeliever Wrote:  
(06-09-2015 10:28 PM)RadThadd Wrote:  By logic, if you try to prove god or gods, or better yet things we KNOW do not exist, then you'd fail equally as someone making an attempt to prove something made up, fabricated, lied into peoples minds or created by HP Lovecraft.

The concept you are thinking of is that of the garage dragon, which, as you can see, we have discussed at length on this forum previously.

To sum up: no, garage dragons don't exist, and that form of agnosticism is indeed incoherent. There are many people, however, both on this forum and elsewhere, who use "agnosticism" as a label for simply lacking knowledge, not knowledge being impossible, and that's quite fine, if a bit semantically confusing.

Just be sure you don't get the two confused.

I agree with you 100% and you can prove a negative. But one not having the knowledge is indeed different from not being able to know. Nice clarification there.
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06-09-2015, 11:08 PM
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(06-09-2015 10:32 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Atheists make no sense???

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06-09-2015, 11:27 PM
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(06-09-2015 11:08 PM)RadThadd Wrote:  I heard you're an idiot. Any truth to that?


Yes.

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07-09-2015, 03:13 AM
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(06-09-2015 11:08 PM)RadThadd Wrote:  
(06-09-2015 10:32 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Atheists make no sense???

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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07-09-2015, 03:44 AM
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WTF is this doing in the creationism section?

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07-09-2015, 03:46 AM
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(07-09-2015 03:44 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  WTF is this doing in the creationism section?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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07-09-2015, 03:55 AM
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(07-09-2015 03:46 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(07-09-2015 03:44 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  WTF is this doing in the creationism section?

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