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11-04-2014, 08:49 AM
RE: Personality test
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11-04-2014, 08:54 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 08:37 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 08:22 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  ...
I take tests like this for entertainment mostly, but it really pisses me off when jobs try to use idiotic tests like this.
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Again, ditto.

But knowing whether staff are intro- or extro- is useful so as to use an appropriate management style.
For example, if an introvert calls in to say they will be working from home... no problem. But if an extrovert does the same it probably means they had a wild party last night.

At a management training weekend, we, amongst many other activities, were asked to complete a few questionnaires. One pathetic question was about innovative thinking and there was a box and you had to draw yourself in relation to it i.e. a perfect Ops Manager would think inside the box etc.

I turned the paper over and drew a stick man in thick pen so that when viewed from the front it showed that I was in the box but on a different plane.

The feedback was... "We didn't know how to score that!"

No

Should told them "you score that as 'smarter than you'", put on some sunglasses and walked away. Laugh out load

I get that managers want to know the personality of their employees, I'm a manager myself. My issue is that when I read some of the tests, I can kinda get the idea of what answers they're looking for and why, I just think they're stupid. The way my mind works is far from normal and if I answer the questions, I'd either be lying or simply cheating. If that's what an employer is looking for in an employee, they're not the company for me. I've taken a few that have a larger range to the answers that are less annoying. Those usually have "rate how much you agree with this statement from 1-5" type questions. Those can still be very troublesome, though as I often strongly disagree with something based on the phrasing of the question. I know that if I answer honestly, they won't understand why (no room for explanations) and probably not hire me.

I've had employers that I was a manager for try to force those types of tests on my applicants. They all ended up in the trash or just as an unused sheet on their app. Call me old fashioned, but I still think the best way to get to know an applicant is by, you know, actually talking to them and asking questions. At the most, those types of tests should be used for how to deal with an employee, not whether to hire said employee.

I'm quite introverted when it comes to dealing with crowds and humanity in general, I'd rather stay home and read a book than go the bar. According to these types of tests, I'd be a terrible salesman. I was in sales for over 10 years and was always near the top of the sales charts. I'm an excellent salesman, despite what the idiotic tests say.

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11-04-2014, 08:57 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 08:54 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 08:37 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Again, ditto.

But knowing whether staff are intro- or extro- is useful so as to use an appropriate management style.
For example, if an introvert calls in to say they will be working from home... no problem. But if an extrovert does the same it probably means they had a wild party last night.

At a management training weekend, we, amongst many other activities, were asked to complete a few questionnaires. One pathetic question was about innovative thinking and there was a box and you had to draw yourself in relation to it i.e. a perfect Ops Manager would think inside the box etc.

I turned the paper over and drew a stick man in thick pen so that when viewed from the front it showed that I was in the box but on a different plane.

The feedback was... "We didn't know how to score that!"

No

Should told them "you score that as 'smarter than you'", put on some sunglasses and walked away. Laugh out load

I get that managers want to know the personality of their employees, I'm a manager myself. My issue is that when I read some of the tests, I can kinda get the idea of what answers they're looking for and why, I just think they're stupid. The way my mind works is far from normal and if I answer the questions, I'd either be lying or simply cheating. If that's what an employer is looking for in an employee, they're not the company for me. I've taken a few that have a larger range to the answers that are less annoying. Those usually have "rate how much you agree with this statement from 1-5" type questions. Those can still be very troublesome, though as I often strongly disagree with something based on the phrasing of the question. I know that if I answer honestly, they won't understand why (no room for explanations) and probably not hire me.

I've had employers that I was a manager for try to force those types of tests on my applicants. They all ended up in the trash or just as an unused sheet on their app. Call me old fashioned, but I still think the best way to get to know an applicant is by, you know, actually talking to them and asking questions. At the most, those types of tests should be used for how to deal with an employee, not whether to hire said employee.

I'm quite introverted when it comes to dealing with crowds and humanity in general, I'd rather stay home and read a book than go the bar. According to these types of tests, I'd be a terrible salesman. I was in sales for over 10 years and was always near the top of the sales charts. I'm an excellent salesman, despite what the idiotic tests say.

Why can't more managers be like you? Fuck, I'm the exact same way Dodgy

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11-04-2014, 09:00 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 08:39 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 08:22 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  I take tests like this for entertainment mostly, but it really pisses me off when jobs try to use idiotic tests like this. I walked out on an application/interview process because they handed me a test that was filled with questions like this. Two choices, neither of which even remotely reflects my feelings or ideas. If an employer is not smart enough to recognize false choice fallacies and is using those false choices to determine who they will employ, I don't want to work for them anyway.


Yes the last time I took this test I was looking for my first job. I did it on the computer and the results got printed out. The interviewer looked at it and laughed and said that he had only seen those results once before. I murmured something about always getting freaky results on such tests and he replied that the only time he saw such results was when he took the test himself. I didn't get the job.

I didn't mind taking that test though, but one thing that really really annoyed me was this one company who don't even bother interviewing you. You spend time and money and all they do is present you with an IQ test. I only ever get average results on an IQ test. Questions like which is the odd one out really throw me because any one of the choices could be the odd one out for so many different reasons. I spend too long analysing why the question is pointless and how you could actually learn how to perform well in IQ tests without actually becoming more intelligent.

I always regretted not writing an essay on the back of the IQ test explaining why their recruitment method sucked.

Anyway several years later a job agent got in touch and I guessed that it was for the same company. So I managed to get him to ask whether the first interview would consist of nothing but an IQ test. After checking with the company he got back to me and confirmed that it would be, so I then had the pleasure of turning them down. It felt good because this time I had publications, specialised experience and qualifications that they were looking for.

IQ tests are horrible indicators of whether an employee will be a good employee. Obviously, the people who thought otherwise have a low IQ. Laugh out load

Seriously, though. As any of the geniuses here can tell you, IQ doesn't mean shit for most jobs. A person with a high IQ may learn the job faster, but the end performance is going to rely a hell of a lot more on work ethic, attitude, laziness, etc. I have one friend that makes me look like a drooling idiot when we start discussing intellectual topics, but I wouldn't hire the guy to work a lemonade stand. He's lazy, entitled, pretentious, and kinda a dick. He is fond of his "Genius by nature, slacker by choice" shirt... Dodgy

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11-04-2014, 09:01 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 08:54 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  ...
According to these types of tests, I'd be a terrible salesman. I was in sales for over 10 years and was always near the top of the sales charts. I'm an excellent salesman, despite what the idiotic tests say.

Our best sales-person was introvert. I'd hire her again tomorrow if she wanted to come back.

Our current best sales lady is extremely extrovert ... awesome at relationship management but she has trouble closing... too worried about what other people think of her.

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11-04-2014, 09:09 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 08:57 AM)Im_Ryan Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 08:54 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  Should told them "you score that as 'smarter than you'", put on some sunglasses and walked away. Laugh out load

I get that managers want to know the personality of their employees, I'm a manager myself. My issue is that when I read some of the tests, I can kinda get the idea of what answers they're looking for and why, I just think they're stupid. The way my mind works is far from normal and if I answer the questions, I'd either be lying or simply cheating. If that's what an employer is looking for in an employee, they're not the company for me. I've taken a few that have a larger range to the answers that are less annoying. Those usually have "rate how much you agree with this statement from 1-5" type questions. Those can still be very troublesome, though as I often strongly disagree with something based on the phrasing of the question. I know that if I answer honestly, they won't understand why (no room for explanations) and probably not hire me.

I've had employers that I was a manager for try to force those types of tests on my applicants. They all ended up in the trash or just as an unused sheet on their app. Call me old fashioned, but I still think the best way to get to know an applicant is by, you know, actually talking to them and asking questions. At the most, those types of tests should be used for how to deal with an employee, not whether to hire said employee.

I'm quite introverted when it comes to dealing with crowds and humanity in general, I'd rather stay home and read a book than go the bar. According to these types of tests, I'd be a terrible salesman. I was in sales for over 10 years and was always near the top of the sales charts. I'm an excellent salesman, despite what the idiotic tests say.

Why can't more managers be like you? Fuck, I'm the exact same way Dodgy

Because, especially in corporate environments, hiring managers are too often the idiots that failed upward. They're sycophantic and of low enough intelligence to be easily controlled. They do exactly as their told and don't ask questions or rock the boat. So when someone above them decides that these types of tests will weed out unqualified employees, the lower level managers simply go along with the program, never thinking twice about the actual efficacy of the program. This, again, is why I have walked out of interviews like that. If a company's culture is one of conformity and obedience, they aren't going to be able to keep hold of innovative thinkers. I refuse to work with people who not only don't think outside the box, but refuse to acknowledge that there IS an outside of the box. To these companies, everything must be neatly quantified and any deviation from the norm is seen as bad. Dodgy

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11-04-2014, 09:14 AM
RE: Personality test
(11-04-2014 09:01 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 08:54 AM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  ...
According to these types of tests, I'd be a terrible salesman. I was in sales for over 10 years and was always near the top of the sales charts. I'm an excellent salesman, despite what the idiotic tests say.

Our best sales-person was introvert. I'd hire her again tomorrow if she wanted to come back.

Our current best sales lady is extremely extrovert ... awesome at relationship management but she has trouble closing... too worried about what other people think of her.

Being introverted has given me a lot of time to reflect on my own ideas and opinions and has made me very self aware. This, along with psychological training, helped me to identify and understand others' thought processes and motivations. Sales is all about getting into your customer's head and figuring out what they want or how to convince them they want something.

Also, as your current sales lady shows, being introverted can be a boon in that introverts are less likely to care about what others think and be less afraid of rejection. I know I'm smart, funny, and all around awesome. You telling me you don't want to buy something from me won't effect that in the least.

Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up.

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11-04-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: Personality test
(10-04-2014 01:42 PM)Im_Ryan Wrote:  I took the mental age test. I'm 19 with the mental age of a 40 year old. I can agree with this...
According to that test,
my mental age is 56. That is so false i want to cringe

I don't really like going outside.
It's too damn "peopley" out there....
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11-04-2014, 06:27 PM (This post was last modified: 11-04-2014 06:31 PM by Miss Suzanne.)
RE: Personality test
(10-04-2014 12:11 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  I know there is another thread with this but I cannot find it.

http://www.arealme.com/16types/en/

I got ISFJ

I was really curious to see if I got the same results as the other test.

Also, I don't like having only 2 options. I feel like I'm right in the middle for most of these.

I got INPF.

Philosopher - Living in your own ideal world.

You are an idealist. You are loyal to your values and the people who are important to you. You hope you can live in a world which could exactly match your own value. You are very curious about the world. You can always find more possibilities and drive yourself and other people to make these ideas come true. You try to understand other people and help them to maximize their potential. When there is nothing threatening your own value, you are quite flexible and good at accepting other people.


Sounds like me. I do wish there were more answers to pick from though.

And my mental age is 39. OVER WORRIED!! Over worried my ass! I'm not that over worried! I think I'm just too indifferent since most of your stupid questions I picked "neither" for! And why does being mentally older make me over worried?!

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11-04-2014, 06:45 PM
RE: Personality test
Your Mental Age is:

33
(17 years younger)
Back to Future
Most people's mental age is 5 years older

That's about right. Thumbsup

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