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15-09-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(15-09-2015 06:35 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  As a prophet - Big Grin - the worst part is all of this IDiot shit is rather demeaning to god. If I was old school, I'd be out stoning motherfuckers. Angry

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15-09-2015, 09:30 AM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(15-09-2015 09:09 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(15-09-2015 06:35 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  As a prophet - Big Grin - the worst part is all of this IDiot shit is rather demeaning to god. If I was old school, I'd be out stoning motherfuckers. Angry

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15-09-2015, 10:15 AM (This post was last modified: 15-09-2015 10:27 AM by Can_of_Beans.)
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(02-09-2015 01:46 PM)Godexists Wrote:  All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex

Maybe you should stick to flip phones then. Their functions are much less complex.

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15-09-2015, 10:25 AM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
Cellular functions complex ...? Consider Not really. Sure, the frequency sequencing is somewhat complex (- it was invented back in the forties by Heddy Lamar -) but the basic functionality of the device itself is fairly straightforward and simple. It's a matter of compartmentalizing all the component functions, platforms, and encodings.
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15-09-2015, 07:09 PM
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(15-09-2015 09:09 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's what I say. A *real* omnipotent deity could make a fuckin' rock be alive.

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15-09-2015, 08:12 PM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
DON'T KNOW THEREFORE GAAAAAAAAAAAAWD

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15-09-2015, 08:26 PM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(15-09-2015 06:26 AM)Popeyes Pappy Wrote:  
(14-09-2015 05:53 PM)Godexists Wrote:  from a bacteria to man, that would require definitively a hudge amount of increased information.

Well GE, since you refuse to answer the question I am going to do it for you. It has already been brought to your attention that length can be added to the genome by doubling events. Length can also be added via horizontal transfer from other organisms. But maybe just adding length isn’t enough for you so I’m going to answer the question with a definition that applies to the way you would like to see an increase in information in the genome defined as part of your argument. An increase in information in the genome is any change that results in new form or function. Here is a graphic example of a mutation leading to an increase of information in the human genome.

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This type of mutation is usually caused by changes to hox clusters. Hox clusters are genes that control when, where and how other genes, in this case the genes for fingers, are expressed. It simply adds the same protein to an extra spot during embryonic development and presto. Someone is born with an additional fully functional finger. This type of mutation is all it took to slowly one small step over time to transform fish fins into legs with feet, arms with hands or wings. They all have the same basic bone structure as building blocks. The changes required to get from a fish fin to your arm are well documented in the fossil record. No god required.

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So now you know you can add information to the genome. You know you can add the type of information to the genome that is required for macro evolution. Now that you know these things the next time you post some drivel about no evidence for macro evolution or you can’t add useful information to the genome you will be a liar and a fraud.

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“The coelacanth, an elusive deep-sea dweller long thought extinct, had another item added Tuesday to an already-long list of unusual physical traits: an obsolete lung lurking in its abdomen."

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15-09-2015, 08:31 PM
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(15-09-2015 08:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Give me a fucking break. At least the good trolls have some variety in their act.

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15-09-2015, 08:33 PM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(15-09-2015 08:31 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(15-09-2015 08:12 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Give me a fucking break. At least the good trolls have some variety in their act.

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16-09-2015, 10:07 PM
RE: All cellular functions are  irreducibly complex
(15-09-2015 06:26 AM)Popeyes Pappy Wrote:  
(14-09-2015 05:53 PM)Godexists Wrote:  from a bacteria to man, that would require definitively a hudge amount of increased information.

Well GE, since you refuse to answer the question I am going to do it for you. It has already been brought to your attention that length can be added to the genome by doubling events. Length can also be added via horizontal transfer from other organisms. But maybe just adding length isn’t enough for you so I’m going to answer the question with a definition that applies to the way you would like to see an increase in information in the genome defined as part of your argument. An increase in information in the genome is any change that results in new form or function. Here is a graphic example of a mutation leading to an increase of information in the human genome.

[Image: 518px-Polydactyly_01_Rhand_AP.jpg]

This type of mutation is usually caused by changes to hox clusters. Hox clusters are genes that control when, where and how other genes, in this case the genes for fingers, are expressed. It simply adds the same protein to an extra spot during embryonic development and presto. Someone is born with an additional fully functional finger. This type of mutation is all it took to slowly one small step over time to transform fish fins into legs with feet, arms with hands or wings. They all have the same basic bone structure as building blocks. The changes required to get from a fish fin to your arm are well documented in the fossil record. No god required.

[Image: tetrapod_evo.jpg]

So now you know you can add information to the genome. You know you can add the type of information to the genome that is required for macro evolution. Now that you know these things the next time you post some drivel about no evidence for macro evolution or you can’t add useful information to the genome you will be a liar and a fraud.

poppycock. In that way, you are just duplicating pre existing genome information, you are not creating NEW one. Drinking Beverage
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