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16-08-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Alt right protests
Not to sound morbid but having spent years watching people call anyone they disagreed with a Nazi it's kinda refreshing to see some actual Nazi's involved.

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16-08-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Alt right protests
(16-08-2017 09:17 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Not to sound morbid but having spent years watching people call anyone they disagreed with a Nazi it's kinda refreshing to see some actual Nazi's involved.

Not sure what you are saying here.

But quite frankly lots of people not even weeks into 45s run were making parallels to WW2 Germany, some even before he ran because of his 5 years of birther crap.

45 was

1. Vilifying oustiders.
2. Blaming everyone else.
3. Attacking rivals even within his party.
4. Selling hyper nationalism.
5. Selling himself as the only cure.
6. Attacking media.
7. Ignoring intel.

Same fucking tactic WW2 Nazis employed.

This weekend is a result of 45's REPEATED political demagoguery, vilification, scapegoating. The very red meat far right hate groups eat up.

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16-08-2017, 11:45 PM
RE: Alt right protests
John Brennan, American hero and ex-director of the CIA, to Wolf Blitzer, on learning Blitzer lost his grandparents to the Nazis.

"Wolf:
Just watched your interview with Senator Blumenthal when you mentioned that you lost all four of your grandparents to the unspeakable evil of Nazism. I just want to extend my sympathies not only for their deaths but also to you and your family--and countless others--for the pain inflicted today by the despicable words of Donald Trump. Mr. Trump's words, and the beliefs they reflect, are a national disgrace, and all Americans of conscience need to repudiate his ugly and dangerous comments. If allowed to continue along this senseless path, Mr. Trump will do lasting harm to American society and to our standing in the world. By his words and his actions, Mr. Trump is putting our national security and our collective futures at grave risk.
John Brennan"

#sigh
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17-08-2017, 12:18 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(16-08-2017 11:45 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  John Brennan, American hero and ex-director of the CIA, to Wolf Blitzer, on learning Blitzer lost his grandparents to the Nazis.

"Wolf:
Just watched your interview with Senator Blumenthal when you mentioned that you lost all four of your grandparents to the unspeakable evil of Nazism. I just want to extend my sympathies not only for their deaths but also to you and your family--and countless others--for the pain inflicted today by the despicable words of Donald Trump. Mr. Trump's words, and the beliefs they reflect, are a national disgrace, and all Americans of conscience need to repudiate his ugly and dangerous comments. If allowed to continue along this senseless path, Mr. Trump will do lasting harm to American society and to our standing in the world. By his words and his actions, Mr. Trump is putting our national security and our collective futures at grave risk.
John Brennan"

John Brennan is a disgrace. A communist. A wolf in sheep's clothing. He even voted for the communist candidate in the 1976 presidential election. No wonder he and Obama were so close. He only made it into the CIA because Jimmy Carter was president in 1980 when he joined, and Jimmy Carter was a communist too. Birds of a feather.

If this guy hates Trump, I know Trump is the right man for the job.

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17-08-2017, 12:33 AM
RE: Alt right protests
Ah... those 'Dirty Commies' raise their ugly heads again.

Bring back the 'Star Chamber', hey Dark Helmet?

Please, tells us how wonderful McCarthy and his ilk were.

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17-08-2017, 12:39 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(16-08-2017 12:56 PM)adey67 Wrote:  
(16-08-2017 12:45 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  My position would be that for a full year and handful of months, it was very touch and go about whether the British would jump in. From the Brit perspective, there were reasons for and against, mostly against, I just believe it wasn't a slam-dunk that England was going to stay out. I think events on the battlefields were another major factor.

Look at the Amer Rev, for example- France didn't jump in and help right away, they waited in the wings and asked: "Is this really going to happen, are these crazy Americans really serious about this, or are they going to cave in?" Because if the Americans weren't in earnest, it would be foolish to jump in. After 1777 it was a worthwhile gamble, it looked like the Americans were going to pull it off. Same thing here, for the first year, the British are watching and frankly the South looks pretty well off. The map hadn't changed much, the south had won some battles, and at Antietam Lee has an army marched up into northern territory! There was reason to believe the North wasn't willing to pay the price to force people come back to a nation they just didn't want to be part of.

The British didn't have to "beat" the north, or invade Washington DC or something. Just well placed and well timed assistance here and history could have been different. Secretary of State Seward was very worried about foreign intervention. I think at one point he said "If England and France join the Confederacy, we're fucked." (maybe it wasn't those exact words)

Regarding the War of 1812, I would hardly call that an American victory! Both sides punched each other around for awhile (we got the worst of it) and then said, "wait, what the fuck are we fighting for?"

My edit was too late.
There's no way we would have risked war with America again, we may have been arrogant but we were not dumb. As for 1812 you still kicked our ass in naval combat several times. You were way to strong it was a no go from the start and we knew that.

Us Americans had a few good ships, but there's no way we could have withstood the full might of the RN. No way. As pointed out above, the Royal Navy had bigger fish to fry.
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17-08-2017, 12:43 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(17-08-2017 12:18 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  John Brennan is a disgrace. A communist. A wolf in sheep's clothing. He even voted for the communist candidate in the 1976 presidential election. No wonder he and Obama were so close. He only made it into the CIA because Jimmy Carter was president in 1980 when he joined, and Jimmy Carter was a communist too. Birds of a feather.

If this guy hates Trump, I know Trump is the right man for the job.

I thought you had good affinity with old school Communist. You favor an authoritarian and militaristic society with a very strong police force. You favored draconian laws and extremely harsh sentencing. You love revolutionary rethoric. You have an enormous love for proletarian values and skills. You are not religious and you are pretty isolationist.

The only things you might have trouble with is an extremely centralised government, but then again if it defends your ideals, I'm not sure you would be opposed to it that much. The other would be vision of the business world, but than again, I think you could get on board a planned economy system depending on the precise politics and levers used to control it.

Of course, you have pretty uc nothing in common with the ''new communists''Tongue

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17-08-2017, 12:44 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(16-08-2017 01:13 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-08-2017 12:30 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  I don't believe anyone in my family owned slaves but my third great uncle was William Tecumseh Sherman, one of the top generals from the Civil War, ...

Good God, woman. Way to understate your lineage.

The March to the Sea was devastating to Georgia and the Confederacy. Sherman himself estimated that the campaign had inflicted $100 million (about $1.4 billion in 2010 dollars) in destruction, about one fifth of which "inured to our advantage" while the "remainder is simple waste and destruction." The Army wrecked 300 miles (480 km) of railroad and numerous bridges and miles of telegraph lines. It seized 5,000 horses, 4,000 mules, and 13,000 head of cattle. It confiscated 9.5 million pounds of corn and 10.5 million pounds of fodder, and destroyed uncounted cotton gins and mills. Military historians Herman Hattaway and Archer Jones cited the significant damage wrought to railroads and Southern logistics in the campaign and stated that "Sherman's raid succeeded in 'knocking the Confederate war effort to pieces'." David J. Eicher wrote that "Sherman had accomplished an amazing task. He had defied military principles by operating deep within enemy territory and without lines of supply or communication. He destroyed much of the South's potential and psychology to wage war."


And just to top it all off, fucker confiscated 400,000 acres for resettlement of the 18,000 darkies he just freed. Sherman fucked the shit of the South and then made them eat it. This is who the children of the Confederacy truly despise. (Now go and erase all evidence of you and your family on the Interwebz for God's sake.)

There's a reason why amongst us Southerners, "like Sherman through Georgia" is a simile for bad shit happening.

He may not have had airpower, but in his 1864 campaign, Sherman presaged both blitzkrieg and total war.
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17-08-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(16-08-2017 07:56 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Steve Bannon gave an interview to a writer at American Prospect. It's a great read if you have the time.

In it he pretty much disavows what the alt-right movement has become.

Of course he is ... they're waving swastikas, after all. Even a cunt like Bannon knows that dog won't hunt.

"I'll take unintended consequences for $500, Alex."

How does it feel to have him disavow you?
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17-08-2017, 01:03 AM
RE: Alt right protests
(17-08-2017 12:18 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  If this guy hates Trump, I know Trump is the right man for the job.

So I guess if a guy loves Trump, like David Duke, then he's the best? Rolleyes

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