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11-12-2013, 12:46 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2013 12:50 PM by anonymous66.)
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(11-12-2013 01:13 AM)The Misanthrope Wrote:  
(10-12-2013 07:48 PM)anonymous66 Wrote:  @ the OP. It's still a difficult topic for me. I identified as a Christian for nearly 4 decades. The entire idea of a supernatural entity just looks so bizzare now. But, I still think religions are interesting, and one can hardly blame those who are initiated, indoctrinated, etc., into their religions from birth (as I was).

There are several atheists who are outspoken leaders and also have compassion for the religious. Daniel Dennette, Dan Barker, Robert Price, Jerry DeWitt come to mind.

I have given in to my desire to mock people for their ridiculous beliefs, but I don't feel proud for doing so. I do enjoy pointing out the flaws and contradictions in the Bible, but I think that can be done respectfully

Ah well, anyone who agrees with his superego, i.e. his real "God," that I deserve to be burnt like a piece of objectionable rubbish - forever - for daring to disagree with His fucked up philosophy should at the very least expect some harsh criticism and/or heaps of humiliation. Indeed, they should be so fucking thankful that's all they get, that they don't get the shit kicked out of them, as they really deserve. Beat_stick

I hear you. Did someone actually suggest you were in danger of going to hell? I had someone ask me what I would tell (the Christian God) if I was being judged by Him. I just turned it around and asked what they would say if they found themselves being judged by the Muslim God. I do get tired of Christians suggesting that atheists are just atheists because they want to do whatever they want. That is, that it is a question of morals. That's pretty nasty.
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11-12-2013, 12:54 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(11-12-2013 08:37 AM)WillHopp Wrote:  If they have respect for me, then I have respect for them. I may not respect their beliefs or religion, but I never will openly attack anyone without provocation, especially with repulsive memes that are only meant to hurt believers.

I think I'm greatly misunderstanding you.

How is sharing a picture over the internet directly attacking someone? I imagine that refusing to hire someone or assaulting them for their beliefs would be an attack.

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11-12-2013, 08:32 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(11-12-2013 12:46 PM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(11-12-2013 01:13 AM)The Misanthrope Wrote:  Ah well, anyone who agrees with his superego, i.e. his real "God," that I deserve to be burnt like a piece of objectionable rubbish - forever - for daring to disagree with His fucked up philosophy should at the very least expect some harsh criticism and/or heaps of humiliation. Indeed, they should be so fucking thankful that's all they get, that they don't get the shit kicked out of them, as they really deserve. Beat_stick

I hear you. Did someone actually suggest you were in danger of going to hell? I had someone ask me what I would tell (the Christian God) if I was being judged by Him. I just turned it around and asked what they would say if they found themselves being judged by the Muslim God. I do get tired of Christians suggesting that atheists are just atheists because they want to do whatever they want. That is, that it is a question of morals. That's pretty nasty.
Quote:Did someone actually suggest you were in danger of going to hell?
SomeONE?!!! Shit a brick, anonymous66, how old are you? If at least a hundred of these snide supercilious Gods-in-waiting haven't told you so already you must be about 3 years of age! Yes
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11-12-2013, 08:45 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
I prefer the civility of Atheists who come from de-conversion, as most of them have empathy for the deceived ones.

Atheists that missed out on the Theistic indoctrination at a young age tend to have less empathy and polarize an augment quickly IMHO.
But there are exception on both sides.

most times, i don't like the the overt bashing like you describe, but I think its for the greater good, and funny.... very funny.
   

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11-12-2013, 09:58 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(11-12-2013 08:45 PM)sporehux Wrote:  I prefer the civility of Atheists who come from de-conversion, as most of them have empathy for the deceived ones.

Atheists that missed out on the Theistic indoctrination at a young age tend to have less empathy and polarize an augment quickly IMHO.
But there are exception on both sides.

most times, i don't like the the overt bashing like you describe, but I think its for the greater good, and funny.... very funny.

Then you'll love this, sporehux. Wink
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11-12-2013, 10:03 PM
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Ceph, tell me the point of Photoshopping Jesus in a gay porn spread or some other nonsense? It's an attack from sick individuals. Sure, it may be aimed at Christianity and not a person, but it's an unprovoked attack. I'm no prude (far from it actually), but I prefer my statements to be factual and my parody to be classy, or at the very least deserving.

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11-12-2013, 10:55 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(11-12-2013 10:03 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Ceph, tell me the point of Photoshopping Jesus in a gay porn spread or some other nonsense?

Yes, it reminds me very much of the derogatory memes about the big bang and evolution. Tongue It's like free speech. It's either ok for everybody or nobody. I'd much rather it stay ok for everybody. The internet is a crazy (and usually immature) place. It's escapism. Random memes shared on the internet don't actually harm other people.

I personally feel that more serious matters warrant feelings of disgust. If an atheist tried to frame a Christian for a crime or something else weird along those lines, then I would consider it the work of a sick individual. (I chose the word disgust because I'm not sure exactly what you mean, and that was the closest term my mind grasped.)

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11-12-2013, 11:37 PM
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I agree; everyone is entitled to do what they want with their memes and I'm not telling anyone how to behave; I merely feel it's pointless and childish. And sure, something that ACTUALLY hurts someone is far more serious and deserving of disdain and contempt, but we're talking in context here. My contention was completely in reference to the social networking aspect of life, not life itself.

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12-12-2013, 03:56 PM
RE: Am I alone in this thinking?
(09-12-2013 03:38 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Nah! I disagree.

It seems to me that there are phases of deconversion.

Not a clinical analysis, but something like:
The slow build up of doubt;
The dawning of realisation;
The crazy phase of can't get enough science and logic and learning the fallacies... the mental re-bootcamp;
The calm after the storm;
The boredom;
The helping others phase;
The rational activist.

Or something like that.

You might me in the 'boredom' phase while others are in the crazy phase.

If nothing else, the growing volume of stuff will help to shake a few people out of the trap of informational influence



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