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12-09-2012, 11:50 AM
Am I being weak minded?
I've been on this forum for close to a year now... wow, seems longer...

Anyway, as most of you know, I'm one of the few theists that have stuck it out.

Being on TTA I expect to be ridiculed... for obvious reasons. I'm more or less ridiculed every day, which is fine, again, something I've accepted and come to expect.

But, there seems to be times where it's worse than others. It comes and goes... slight ridicule then extreme ridicule. The most recent wave of heavy ridicule got me thinking.

Now, I've always been all right with my beliefs being persecuted, but inevitably that persecution slips into the personal realm. Jeremy starts being attacked instead of Jeremy's beliefs. I understand this because I know how hard it is to separate a person from beliefs.

I'm pretty stalwart, though... and have good perseverance. However, during the times of heavy ridicule, and when the ad hominems start, it starts to wear down my shield. It's not that I'm offended... not that at all... it's just that the persecution starts to affect me on an emotional level. It kind of makes me sad.

Many of you know that I like harmony... with people... no matter who it is. Now, I don't run from controversy but I don't like it. I would rather people just embrace differing opinions and ways of life and just accept it... no questions asked. But, that line of thinking is impractical and boring. I know this, but I still want it... eventually.

But anyway, am I being weak minded for letting this persecution get me down in the times of heavy ridicule? I'm still strong, I know, but I still feel weak for letting myself be sad.

Thoughts?

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12-09-2012, 11:52 AM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
Considering you've outlasted pretty much every other theist to ever come here I would hardly call you weak minded.

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12-09-2012, 11:57 AM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
I don't think you're weak minded for feeling worn down by being the target of negative attitudes and ridicule. You actually have quite a bit of resolve, for some reason, to not lash back at people's comments. Thumbsup

Now, are you weak minded because of your beliefs? That's a discussion for another thread on another day. Drinking Beverage

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12-09-2012, 11:58 AM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
(12-09-2012 11:50 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I've been on this forum for close to a year now... wow, seems longer...

Anyway, as most of you know, I'm one of the few theists that have stuck it out.

Being on TTA I expect to be ridiculed... for obvious reasons. I'm more or less ridiculed every day, which is fine, again, something I've accepted and come to expect.

But, there seems to be times where it's worse than others. It comes and goes... slight ridicule then extreme ridicule. The most recent wave of heavy ridicule got me thinking.

Now, I've always been all right with my beliefs being persecuted, but inevitably that persecution slips into the personal realm. Jeremy starts being attacked instead of Jeremy's beliefs. I understand this because I know how hard it is to separate a person from beliefs.

I'm pretty stalwart, though... and have good perseverance. However, during the times of heavy ridicule, and when the ad hominems start, it starts to wear down my shield. It's not that I'm offended... not that at all... it's just that the persecution starts to affect me on an emotional level. It kind of makes me sad.

Many of you know that I like harmony... with people... no matter who it is. Now, I don't run from controversy but I don't like it. I would rather people just embrace differing opinions and ways of life and just accept it... no questions asked. But, that line of thinking is impractical and boring. I know this, but I still want it... eventually.

But anyway, am I being weak minded for letting this persecution get me down in the times of heavy ridicule? I'm still strong, I know, but I still feel weak for letting myself be sad.

Thoughts?

Seriously, KC? You are espousing the worst kind of theist beliefs on an atheist forum. Of course you and your beliefs are going to be attacked.

As for acceptance, no. Not now, not ever. Theistic beliefs are irrational. I accept your right to believe any damn fool thing you want to, but I am under no compulsion to accept the validity of your beliefs or the validity of your believing them.

Irrational beliefs leave the mind weakened and susceptible to other irrational beliefs.

If you want to play here, suck it up. If it makes you sad, go away.

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12-09-2012, 11:58 AM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
Are you weak-minded for not wanting your beliefs challenged? In that regard, yes. My philosophical beliefs are constantly challenged in real life. That is the price I pay for being an atheist. Feel lucky that it is almost solely confined to this forum.

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12-09-2012, 12:01 PM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
(12-09-2012 11:52 AM)Hughsie Wrote:  Considering you've outlasted pretty much every other theist to ever come here I would hardly call you weak minded.

Not AM but BEING.

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12-09-2012, 12:02 PM
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(12-09-2012 11:57 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  I don't think you're weak minded for feeling worn down by being the target of negative attitudes and ridicule. You actually have quite a bit of resolve, for some reason, to not lash back at people's comments. Thumbsup

Now, are you weak minded because of your beliefs? That's a discussion for another thread on another day. Drinking Beverage

Thanks. My resolve is tested a lot.

And yes... something we will have to discuss later Smile

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12-09-2012, 12:02 PM
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If you're tired, take a break.

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12-09-2012, 12:03 PM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
(12-09-2012 11:50 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I've been on this forum for close to a year now... wow, seems longer...

Anyway, as most of you know, I'm one of the few theists that have stuck it out.

Being on TTA I expect to be ridiculed... for obvious reasons. I'm more or less ridiculed every day, which is fine, again, something I've accepted and come to expect.

But, there seems to be times where it's worse than others. It comes and goes... slight ridicule then extreme ridicule. The most recent wave of heavy ridicule got me thinking.

Now, I've always been all right with my beliefs being persecuted, but inevitably that persecution slips into the personal realm. Jeremy starts being attacked instead of Jeremy's beliefs. I understand this because I know how hard it is to separate a person from beliefs.

I'm pretty stalwart, though... and have good perseverance. However, during the times of heavy ridicule, and when the ad hominems start, it starts to wear down my shield. It's not that I'm offended... not that at all... it's just that the persecution starts to affect me on an emotional level. It kind of makes me sad.

Many of you know that I like harmony... with people... no matter who it is. Now, I don't run from controversy but I don't like it. I would rather people just embrace differing opinions and ways of life and just accept it... no questions asked. But, that line of thinking is impractical and boring. I know this, but I still want it... eventually.

But anyway, am I being weak minded for letting this persecution get me down in the times of heavy ridicule? I'm still strong, I know, but I still feel weak for letting myself be sad.

Thoughts?

You are a human being and as such your emotions are mostly triggered by hormones. Nothing you can really do, it's your chemical make-up.

The hormones are triggered by experiences, and the more often you experience a certain thing, the less hormones will be released in that particular situation.

If that hasn't happened to you, then there is a "sore spot". Something you are not clear with yourself about.

If the emotions do not tone down with frequent exposure to something, look at the things that upset you very closely. Something is a conflict within yourself.

If the emotions have been on the increase, get a blood test. Many medical conditions can cause this.

Just my opinon, just based on observation of self and others.

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12-09-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Am I being weak minded?
(12-09-2012 11:58 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(12-09-2012 11:50 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I've been on this forum for close to a year now... wow, seems longer...

Anyway, as most of you know, I'm one of the few theists that have stuck it out.

Being on TTA I expect to be ridiculed... for obvious reasons. I'm more or less ridiculed every day, which is fine, again, something I've accepted and come to expect.

But, there seems to be times where it's worse than others. It comes and goes... slight ridicule then extreme ridicule. The most recent wave of heavy ridicule got me thinking.

Now, I've always been all right with my beliefs being persecuted, but inevitably that persecution slips into the personal realm. Jeremy starts being attacked instead of Jeremy's beliefs. I understand this because I know how hard it is to separate a person from beliefs.

I'm pretty stalwart, though... and have good perseverance. However, during the times of heavy ridicule, and when the ad hominems start, it starts to wear down my shield. It's not that I'm offended... not that at all... it's just that the persecution starts to affect me on an emotional level. It kind of makes me sad.

Many of you know that I like harmony... with people... no matter who it is. Now, I don't run from controversy but I don't like it. I would rather people just embrace differing opinions and ways of life and just accept it... no questions asked. But, that line of thinking is impractical and boring. I know this, but I still want it... eventually.

But anyway, am I being weak minded for letting this persecution get me down in the times of heavy ridicule? I'm still strong, I know, but I still feel weak for letting myself be sad.

Thoughts?

Seriously, KC? You are espousing the worst kind of theist beliefs on an atheist forum. Of course you and your beliefs are going to be attacked.

As for acceptance, no. Not now, not ever. Theistic beliefs are irrational. I accept your right to believe any damn fool thing you want to, but I am under no compulsion to accept the validity of your beliefs or the validity of your believing them.

Irrational beliefs leave the mind weakened and susceptible to other irrational beliefs.

If you want to play here, suck it up. If it makes you sad, go away.

I never asked for acceptance of my beliefs. I only asked for the acceptance that I believe my beliefs.

But, what you are saying is that if I let the ridicule affect my emotions then I am being weak minded?

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