Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
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16-09-2012, 05:42 PM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 05:24 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  then you chosen to be a slave to that idea and no one can change your mind So that is you exerting Free Will ,see?

Again, if you'd watch the video I provided, you wouldn't need to ask these stupid questions.

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16-09-2012, 05:42 PM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 05:24 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:07 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:03 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  You tell your body what to do That is free will.

If I move my body, there is a predetermined purpose for it. I don't think you grasp what I am saying. Watch Sam Harris' video so you at least understand where I am coming from.

then you chosen to be a slave to that idea and no one can change your mind So that is you exerting Free Will ,see?

Look at BusyAss, trying to go all metaphysical and shit. Come here and let me give you a big ass Girly bear hug instead of kicking your ass.

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16-09-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 05:42 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:24 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  then you chosen to be a slave to that idea and no one can change your mind So that is you exerting Free Will ,see?

Again, if you'd watch the video I provided, you wouldn't need to ask these stupid questions.
I was making rhetoric statements .

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16-09-2012, 08:56 PM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 05:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:24 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  then you chosen to be a slave to that idea and no one can change your mind So that is you exerting Free Will ,see?

Look at Bizzysaisass, trying to go all metaphysical and shit. Come here and let me give you a big ass Girly bear hug instead of kicking your ass.

I'm ignoring you from now on.Excl

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17-09-2012, 05:18 AM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
Bizzy, you are beginning to be my favorite poster. Keep it up, your misunderstanding of things is the bestest thing ever.

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17-09-2012, 05:26 AM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 08:56 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Look at Bizzysaisass, trying to go all metaphysical and shit. Come here and let me give you a big ass Girly bear hug instead of kicking your ass.

I'm ignoring you from now on.Excl

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17-09-2012, 05:58 AM
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17-09-2012, 06:10 AM
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Trolls putting people on ignore...Consider

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17-09-2012, 09:12 AM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(16-09-2012 08:54 PM)BizzysaidAss Wrote:  
(16-09-2012 05:42 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Again, if you'd watch the video I provided, you wouldn't need to ask these stupid questions.
I was making rhetoric statements .

You would not have to do so if you'd watch the video.

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17-09-2012, 10:03 AM
RE: Am I racist? Or just a statistician?
(15-09-2012 04:08 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Please, tell me what different types of free will are there?

View it like this:

No Free Will------------------------------------------------------------------------Free Will

Different types would be: 'free will' or anything in the middle, excluding 'no free will', is 'free will', or 'no free will' or anything in the middle, excluding 'free will', is 'no free will'.

And this is where the middle is a combination between circumstances, experiences, your consciousness, and unconscious brain, etc.

(15-09-2012 06:43 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  It is a logical conclusion based on what we currently know in neurology, biology, and physics.

That probably wasn't the best comment to make. The conclusion isn't one based on neurology, biology and physics, especially, and specifically, as it relates to our current understand of those fields.

It's a philosophical question, and at the very least, it would be extremely pretentious to imply (not saying you did it intentionally) that the individuals who questioned the existence of free will, prior to the advancements in those fields, hadn't a clue about the relating, and inherent, limitations. They were doing the philosophy and disagreeing for good reasons.

Anyone who has ever touched something hot or was about to get punched in the face would, hopefully, be able to tell you that it wasn't them, consciously, that made the reactionary decision to lift their hand or move their head.

Free will is obviously limited in many regards, so anyone who would be willing to say that any limitation to conscious decision making, either by external forces and/or unconscious brain functions, would undoubtedly come to no other conclusion than free will being completely non-existent. The thing is, however, that not everyone views free will as being something that is supposed to be completely free. Some people view free will as the ability to control your consciousness and make conscious decisions. This takes into account the fact that your unconscious brain also dictates what you do, how you react to things and even how you think, but views anything that isn't completely deterministic as free will. In that view, given consciousness, one would almost undoubtedly come to the opposite conclusion.

Personally, I'd have to say that free will is about as free as black people in American, or it's about as free as the markets. Depending on where you're coming from.

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