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16-10-2012, 06:59 PM (This post was last modified: 16-10-2012 07:08 PM by FSM_scot.)
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 03:51 PM)k37713 Wrote:  
(16-10-2012 03:03 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  So much to explain...

The story goes, she slept with some girls boyfriend and revenge was sought.

The evidence points to blogtv. Which she used to broadcast her own naked body to the public. Which was then recorded and used against her.

The real failure here is the fact that the internet is a public place. She should've been taught that idea.

I don't support "bullying" but at some point you have to get it into your kids heads that if you wouldn't do it in a public place then you shouldn't do it on the internet.
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I don't agree with bullying on either side of things.. but how are the facts so skew'd .. the story I read said she "flashed" her tits to a man who had been cohersing her to do so for about a year. Now she is 12 and sleeping with someone elses boyfriend and stripping on a pornish type site?? I feel sorry for the girl and more importantly her loved ones - either way..

I think a lot of girls turn to this type of behavior due to insecurites - I see retarded behavior like this from grown women and shake my head as well. More girls/women need to be taught that self worth is not completely tied up in being slutty - and even more so that those actions are looked down upon -- not looked up too.. I can't begin to even say where that starts tho Sad
Upper right hand corner shows her clearly on blogtv.com

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16-10-2012, 07:05 PM (This post was last modified: 17-10-2012 09:30 PM by FSM_scot.)
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16-10-2012, 07:10 PM (This post was last modified: 19-10-2012 12:52 AM by fstratzero.)
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 07:05 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  Dude that maybe be censored but its still inappropriate, remove it.

My bad. Sorry about that.
Here is a better link.
http://www.dailydot.com/news/blogtv-aman...d-suicide/

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16-10-2012, 07:12 PM (This post was last modified: 16-10-2012 11:59 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 07:05 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  Dude that maybe be censored but its still censored child porn, remove it.

I disagree, Scot. fstratzero's appropriately edited image made me realize just what a fucking pedophile puke this prick was and now appreciate the job Anonymous did in exposing him. Not only do I hope he gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I want to sodomize him with a cattle prod. I did not fully appreciate the extent of his crime until I saw that image. That wasn't porn, that was fucking evidence.

I'm fucking reposting it. If you don't feel the the same way about it as me I am ready to fucking sodomize your pedo ass with a cattle prod.

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(16-10-2012 04:08 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(16-10-2012 04:03 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Which is more important? Mutual kindness or free speech? When they conflict one needs to be more important than the other.

I know.

That's my dilemma.

Where's the dilemma? One's a right and one's choosing to not be an asshole. If you choose to be an asshole, that's your right. There's no dilemma here.

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17-10-2012, 01:27 AM
Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 06:37 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  People who celebrate her death are sick. The people who drove her to it are worse. If it was my decision the ring-leaders involved in driving her to this would be facing prosecution. As much as people wanna say they're only teenagers and didn't realise what they were doing, they need to understand that actions have consequences. The fact that they are younger isn't gonna bring her back.

I will say though that I distinguish heavily between people who celebrate her death and people who wish she was still alive but joke about it. I really have no problem with the latter group.

On the topic of keyloggers and stuff like that I kinda think it depends on the teen and the situation. I can say quite safely that if my parents had done that I wouldn't have taken it very well. However honest and upfront, however much they said it was for my benefit, I wouldda resented the fuck out of it and it wouldda just inspired me to find ways around it. Not because I necessarily had anything to hide, just because it would feel like a lack of trust to me and because I could be a rebellious little shit.

It would probably work far better with some people though so it depends on the situation in my view.

Thanks, Hughsie. Said what I wanted to say.

We've raised a couple teenagers. They are all different. We've seen no evidence of a "Golden Path" to raising them. Get to know them personally and when the time comes you need to take steps you'll be better able to judge which steps will be most effective as well as how best to discuss it with them.

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17-10-2012, 07:34 AM
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 01:15 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Story and info here.

Seems to me she was bullied into suicide. Sure, it was a dumb decision, but hardly a rare thing to do. In fact, girls getting naked on the Internet happens like... all the time.

It was a tough situation, and I'm on the fence about cyber-bullying. I'm a huge advocate of free speech, but I see things like this and sometimes wonder if some form of censorship is needed in certain situations.

Poor kid.

On a side note, I'm going to be crazy over protective of the Internet when my kids get older.

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17-10-2012, 07:59 AM
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 06:05 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-10-2012 02:07 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  I generally agree with TAA on all opinions.

(16-10-2012 03:59 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  And most importantly, Amanda Todd is no more or less important than any other tragedy.

Never heard of this dude before and at first I thought you meant TTA, but I get dude's point. If her death going viral represents a tipping point which will result in tangible societal change then that's a positive thing. But if come next week she's forgotten for the next viral topic then her death going viral diminishes the ubiquity of bullying and injustice by making it seem like this poor girl was merely an anomaly. TAA's money's on the latter. Girly's too.

(16-10-2012 02:53 PM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  He also glossed over the fact that teachers can't control their classrooms because if you look at a kid crosseyed the teacher and the district get sued.

Girly's brother, ManlyBro, is a Behavioral Management Specialist for the Montgomery County school system in Maryland. I asked him what that meant. "Whaddya mean, it means I manage the students' behavior." "So you're like some sort of therapist or something?" "No Bro, I literally manage their behavior. Up to and including physically restraining them without hurting them until the cops arrive if they fail to comply." All of the students in the High Schools he's assigned to have been kicked out of the schools they were initally assigned to. There is zero bullying in the schools my brother works.

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Since every school does not have a Manlybro not every school is managned so well. I know many teachers, those in good systems have an easier time, those in bad areas spend a lot of time on disciipline problems. Usually when the parent is contatced they find where the problem starts. You a touch student around here, you get sued. It's really ridiculous that teachers have to put up with this crap.

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17-10-2012, 09:39 AM
RE: Amanda Todd?
What exactly was this girl's home-life like?

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17-10-2012, 12:07 PM
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(16-10-2012 07:12 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I'm fucking reposting it.

She's such a little girl... hate this.
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17-10-2012, 09:24 PM
RE: Amanda Todd?
(16-10-2012 07:12 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-10-2012 07:05 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  Dude that maybe be censored but its still censored child porn, remove it.

I disagree, Scot. fstratzero's appropriately edited image made me realize just what a fucking pedophile puke this prick was and now appreciate the job Anonymous did in exposing him. Not only do I hope he gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I want to sodomize him with a cattle prod. I did not fully appreciate the extent of his crime until I saw that image. That wasn't porn, that was fucking evidence.

I'm fucking reposting it. If you don't feel the the same way about it as me I am ready to fucking sodomize your pedo ass with a cattle prod.

[Image: amandatodd_zpsb7966a8b.jpg]

(16-10-2012 04:08 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I know.

That's my dilemma.

Where's the dilemma? One's a right and one's choosing to not be an asshole. If you choose to be an asshole, that's your right. There's no dilemma here.

Actually it was already edited.

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