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18-08-2016, 10:19 PM
America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
I almost died when I read it I could hardly believe it.
You're phasing out private operated prisons.

Holy fucking shit, this is the single greatest thing you guys have done for yourselves in sooo long. I can't stress how fantastic of a decision this is for your fucking retarded justice system. I have faith America, you have renewed by faith that even though you're gonna elect a toss pot this year, you're gonna be a bit of alright in the future.

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18-08-2016, 10:47 PM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
(18-08-2016 10:19 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  I almost died when I read it I could hardly believe it.
You're phasing out private operated prisons.

Holy fucking shit, this is the single greatest thing you guys have done for yourselves in sooo long. I can't stress how fantastic of a decision this is for your fucking retarded justice system. I have faith America, you have renewed by faith that even though you're gonna elect a toss pot this year, you're gonna be a bit of alright in the future.

Hold your praise there Tonto...

It is a great step in the right direction, but as I understand it at the federal level thus far it's not going to affect that much of our prison population. But it is a precedent that will hopefully spread to the state level and is a very good sign that we might be open to changing policies to correct the horribly disproportionate incarceration that happens everywhere. Time will tell.

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19-08-2016, 04:22 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
Yep.

Most private prisons are used by states, not the feds, and the states don't give a rat's ass what the feds do. Indeed, many openly defy federal attempts to improve their state prisons, unless it is mandated they do so (such as the Prison Rape Elimination Act, PREA, which they nevertheless employ in the most barbaric and humiliating ways possible, so as to discourage people from taking advantage of its protections), and even sometimes in the face of financial incentives such as the "accreditation" system by which states could get some federal money for their prisons if they met standards of cell size per inmate, cleanliness, health, safety, and so on. States basically said, "Nah, bro, we're cool. Fuck those guys."

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19-08-2016, 05:13 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
Nawwww .... They're just going public - and offering an IPO......

It's the American Way..

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19-08-2016, 06:44 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
(19-08-2016 04:22 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Yep.

Most private prisons are used by states, not the feds, and the states don't give a rat's ass what the feds do. Indeed, many openly defy federal attempts to improve their state prisons, unless it is mandated they do so (such as the Prison Rape Elimination Act, PREA, which they nevertheless employ in the most barbaric and humiliating ways possible, so as to discourage people from taking advantage of its protections), and even sometimes in the face of financial incentives such as the "accreditation" system by which states could get some federal money for their prisons if they met standards of cell size per inmate, cleanliness, health, safety, and so on. States basically said, "Nah, bro, we're cool. Fuck those guys."

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19-08-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
Yup, we’re cleaning up our prisons, turning them into theme parks and sending the inmates to some island called New Zealand.

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19-08-2016, 07:01 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
"A generation ago, amid a rise in crime rates, state and federal lawmakers began passing “tough on crime” laws, including mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession.

That led to a huge increase in incarceration rates; at the federal level, the inmate population swelled nearly 800 percent from 1980 to 2013, when it peaked at 220,000. As crime rates have now fallen to or near four-decade lows, political leaders at the state and federal levels and across the ideological divide — some focused on the cost to taxpayers, some on human costs — have increasingly agreed that too many people are behind bars.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/us/us-...Multimedia

The bolded text above counters the constant parroting that there is more crime than ever. Maybe it’s that communication is instanteneous nowadays and we know about every crime that happens anywhere in the world, it just appears there is more.

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19-08-2016, 07:08 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
(19-08-2016 04:22 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Yep.

Most private prisons are used by states, not the feds, and the states don't give a rat's ass what the feds do. Indeed, many openly defy federal attempts to improve their state prisons, unless it is mandated they do so...

... America never ceases to baffle me...

But hey, even if it just the federal government, it's a step in the right direct for the nation.

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19-08-2016, 07:13 AM
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
(19-08-2016 07:01 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  "A generation ago, amid a rise in crime rates, state and federal lawmakers began passing “tough on crime” laws, including mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession.

That led to a huge increase in incarceration rates; at the federal level, the inmate population swelled nearly 800 percent from 1980 to 2013, when it peaked at 220,000. As crime rates have now fallen to or near four-decade lows, political leaders at the state and federal levels and across the ideological divide — some focused on the cost to taxpayers, some on human costs — have increasingly agreed that too many people are behind bars.”
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So, you're saying that there is a correlation between increased incarceration and reduction in crime.

Well, erm, Consider I guess the system is working, then.

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19-08-2016, 07:33 AM (This post was last modified: 19-08-2016 07:38 AM by Full Circle.)
RE: America you beauty! Round of applause to you good sirs and siresses.
(19-08-2016 07:13 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(19-08-2016 07:01 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  "A generation ago, amid a rise in crime rates, state and federal lawmakers began passing “tough on crime” laws, including mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession.

That led to a huge increase in incarceration rates; at the federal level, the inmate population swelled nearly 800 percent from 1980 to 2013, when it peaked at 220,000. As crime rates have now fallen to or near four-decade lows, political leaders at the state and federal levels and across the ideological divide — some focused on the cost to taxpayers, some on human costs — have increasingly agreed that too many people are behind bars.”
...

So, you're saying that there is a correlation between increased incarceration and reduction in crime.

Well, erm, Consider I guess the system is working, then.

Angel

It may have to do with the “War on Drugs” campaign finally losing steam and the end of incarcerating for years anyone and everyone caught with small quantities of drugs.

From the article:

"The Obama administration in its first term worked with Congress to reduce the disparity in sentencing for crack versus powder forms of cocaine. And in 2013, Eric H. Holder Jr., the attorney general at the time, announced several changes intended to reduce incarceration, including a policy of not listing specific quantities of drugs in indictments, to avoid bringing mandatory minimum sentencing laws into play.”

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