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03-04-2014, 08:05 AM
RE: American democracy died today
(02-04-2014 10:09 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  In a predictable ruling based on the current make up of the SCOTUS, unlimited donations to parties is now allowable.

Unlimited donations from anyone.
Instead of 1 vote per person, it can be argued that it is now 1 vote per dollar.

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Political parties are not the same as candidates.

I don't have any problem with people giving money to the parties, but there should be no contributions to candidates for office, even from their party.
And let the parties pay for their own damn primaries - these are not elections and the taxpayer should not foot the bill.

Every candidate for an elective office should get the same amount of public money for his/her election campaign. That amount should be determined based on the type of election (county/state/federal) and the relative costs for that area (some markets are more expensive).

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03-04-2014, 08:08 AM
RE: American democracy died today
(03-04-2014 07:57 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Don't worry in a few days Hobby Lobby will win their case and then Corporations will be granted full citizens rights. After that it won't be long until only corporations have those rights. Facepalm Worst Supreme Court Ever.

Oh, don't be so pessimistic. They're not going to rescind individual rights. You'll all still be equal.

It's just that having lots of money will be more equal.

Don't worry. Good ol' Steve wants to get rid of all campaign finance laws up here, too. But that is a looooong road to play catch-up on.

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03-04-2014, 08:33 AM
RE: American democracy died today
(02-04-2014 10:11 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Does it have to be anonymous donations?
Because the issue is not the amount, the issue is if politicians know who donated what or not,

That would not solve anything.

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03-04-2014, 10:42 PM
RE: American democracy died today
(03-04-2014 08:33 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(02-04-2014 10:11 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Does it have to be anonymous donations?
Because the issue is not the amount, the issue is if politicians know who donated what or not,

That would not solve anything.

Yes it would, it makes a huge difference.
If you make donations anonymous you solve all of America's issues.
Well, a fair chunk of them anyway.
Well, a fair chunk of the political issues anyway.

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03-04-2014, 10:47 PM (This post was last modified: 03-04-2014 11:05 PM by Tartarus Sauce.)
RE: American democracy died today
(03-04-2014 07:57 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Facepalm Worst Supreme Court Ever.

Perhaps, although not necessarily because of the topic at hand. Other than a brief time during the 50s and 60s, the Supreme Court has been overwhelmingly fawning corporations pretty much since they first started popping up.

As for the topic at hand, "American democracy" has been dead since its conception. True, America has been a better country than its European counterparts for a good chunk of its history (probably not so much in contemporary times), but that doesn't change the fact that its main founding ideals have never been truly realized.

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