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30-12-2013, 07:06 PM
RE: An atheist Prayer
(30-12-2013 06:55 PM)djkamilo Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 06:52 PM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  As a person who doesn't believe in any gods, this is where you lost me. I don't see the point in speaking telepathically to imaginary beings. Drinking Beverage

Should he say, Dear Universe?

Sure... I'm pretty sure that we have at least one of those.

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30-12-2013, 07:40 PM
RE: An atheist Prayer
(30-12-2013 06:55 PM)djkamilo Wrote:  Should he say, Dear Universe?

People praying should say :
"Dear set of my brain molecules"
(since all they're doing is talking to themselves anyway).
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31-12-2013, 03:22 AM
RE: An atheist Prayer
(30-12-2013 11:30 AM)crazylikeyou Wrote:  I know how a Christian thinks...
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crazylikeyou Wrote:They could easily say "Good created everything good. Free will is GOOD. Satan used his freewill, and God decided not to destroy satan afterwards, but rather let the pieces fall as they may.."

Anyone have a good rebuttal for that?

Despite the endless discussions about "free will", it comes down to the following: In order for an individual to have free will, that individual must have willed themselves into existence to begin with. That in itself is an impossibility simply because a thing cannot exist [i]before[\i] it exists.
My fellow believers whom insist on free will, continually diminish the god they claim to represent, and as usual, fail in spectacular fashion to defend their position(s).

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31-12-2013, 03:41 AM
RE: An atheist Prayer
One other thing re: Free will...

When a believer states that god gave man free will, point out that, that is a self refuting statement.
To give or endow one with free will is an imposition. To receive this endowment of "free will" one must already have the freedom of will to accept or deny it.
Intellectually impossible to reconcile and/or refute.

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31-12-2013, 07:23 AM
RE: An atheist Prayer
(30-12-2013 06:52 PM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  
(29-12-2013 02:10 AM)Atheist789 Wrote:  An Atheist prayer

Dear God...

As a person who doesn't believe in any gods, this is where you lost me. I don't see the point in speaking telepathically to imaginary beings. Drinking Beverage

I started from certain assumptions first that God exists as well as the other assumptions adopted in monotheistic religions. However if you follow the arguments given throughout the "prayer", they certainly show that the assumed propositions lead to a logical contradiction and therefore cannot all be correct.
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