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07-01-2015, 02:25 PM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
Again as I'd mentioned before the New Year, the issue isn't always mere Bible study but Bible devotion and adherence. One of the best ways to study a book is to reach out to the author and discuss it with Him.

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07-01-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
(07-01-2015 02:25 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Again as I'd mentioned before the New Year, the issue isn't always mere Bible study but Bible devotion and adherence. One of the best ways to study a book is to reach out to the author and discuss it with Him.

How do you have a conversation with something that doesn't exist? Oh that's right, you talk to yourself and pretend.

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07-01-2015, 02:45 PM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
(07-01-2015 02:25 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Again as I'd mentioned before the New Year, the issue isn't always mere Bible study but Bible devotion and adherence. One of the best ways to study a book is to reach out to the author and discuss it with Him.

I'll look him up at the book signing.

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07-01-2015, 03:08 PM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
(07-01-2015 02:25 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Again as I'd mentioned before the New Year, the issue isn't always mere Bible study but Bible devotion and adherence. One of the best ways to study a book is to reach out to the author and discuss it with Him.

How can anyone devote themselves to the Bible without reading it first? What follows is comprehension. Gasp Then loud laughter Laughat and lots of face palming. Facepalm

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07-01-2015, 03:17 PM
Re: An atheist reads the bible
The authors -- yes, plural -- are all dead. Long dead.

Secondly, I have read the entire book a few times and can't fathom the amount of mental gymnastics that apologists need to explain a lot of it.
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07-01-2015, 03:30 PM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
(26-12-2014 10:50 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(26-12-2014 08:22 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Bible study! I’m in.

(Can we skip the family tree stuff though?, I don’t want to have to cut my veins.)

Yeah, I'm kind of expecting that the begats will be skimmed and condensed a bit. They do take mind-numbing to a new level.
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Some of the "begats" are worth looking at, though. In Genesis 4 and 5, I find it interesting that the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Seth are nearly identical, except for some minor differences in the spelling of the names.

Conversely, the genealogies of Jesus given by Matthew and Luke are completely different -- different names, different number of generations, different father for Joseph, etc.

What conclusions can be drawn from this can be discussed when we get to those chapters (very soon for Genesis 4 and 5).
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07-01-2015, 04:45 PM
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(07-01-2015 03:30 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(26-12-2014 10:50 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Yeah, I'm kind of expecting that the begats will be skimmed and condensed a bit. They do take mind-numbing to a new level.
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Some of the "begats" are worth looking at, though. In Genesis 4 and 5, I find it interesting that the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Seth are nearly identical, except for some minor differences in the spelling of the names.

Conversely, the genealogies of Jesus given by Matthew and Luke are completely different -- different names, different number of generations, different father for Joseph, etc.

What conclusions can be drawn from this can be discussed when we get to those chapters (very soon for Genesis 4 and 5).

Are we going to post the log on TTA?

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07-01-2015, 05:04 PM
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(26-12-2014 10:50 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(26-12-2014 08:22 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Bible study! I’m in.

(Can we skip the family tree stuff though?, I don’t want to have to cut my veins.)

Yeah, I'm kind of expecting that the begats will be skimmed and condensed a bit. They do take mind-numbing to a new level.
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Well, maybe if you think of all the begatting as fucking, perhaps the bible will seem a little more like porn. Confused

Unfortunately there's also a bunch of incest too, which is a complete turn off to me. Hummmmm, so maybe my porn idea isn't so good. Consider

Just trying to be helpful......... carry on.

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08-01-2015, 10:20 AM
RE: An atheist reads the bible
(07-01-2015 02:29 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 02:25 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Again as I'd mentioned before the New Year, the issue isn't always mere Bible study but Bible devotion and adherence. One of the best ways to study a book is to reach out to the author and discuss it with Him.

How do you have a conversation with something that doesn't exist? Oh that's right, you talk to yourself and pretend.

I don't mind pointing out the irony of your post, which was written then published to a forum in the hopes that some being might see and read it. Had no one followed up to lurk or post on this thread, you would have (almost) been doing what you accuse theists of doing in prayer--talking to yourself.

God answered some big prayers for me just this morning. He has been responding to my prayers for not only things but intimacy in relationship for many years. He is real and is available to you for relationship as well as petitions or requests.

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08-01-2015, 11:08 AM
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(08-01-2015 10:20 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 02:29 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  How do you have a conversation with something that doesn't exist? Oh that's right, you talk to yourself and pretend.

I don't mind pointing out the irony of your post, which was written then published to a forum in the hopes that some being might see and read it. Had no one followed up to lurk or post on this thread, you would have (almost) been doing what you accuse theists of doing in prayer--talking to yourself.

God answered some big prayers for me just this morning. He has been responding to my prayers for not only things but intimacy in relationship for many years. He is real and is available to you for relationship as well as petitions or requests.

God answered some of your big prayers this morning? Oh goodie, goodie for you. Oh yippie, skippie. You must be a super duper special kind of fella.

Guess god was too busy answering your prayers to help this child and the hundred- thousand just like him or her.

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Let me tell you, if your god does exist then he's the most immoral ass hole this side of the Milky Way or he's powerless or....... he simply doesn't exist.

I'm more moral than your god (if he exists) because were I god there's no way I'd let babies suffer like this. No way!

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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