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21-11-2013, 08:12 PM (This post was last modified: 26-11-2013 05:24 PM by Buddy Christ.)
RE: An atheist's critique of the Bible (Book and eBook now available)
(02-11-2013 11:15 AM)prophet Wrote:  A fool does not delight in understanding, but only wants to show off his opinions.

Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes?
There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Because they hated knowledge,
didn’t choose to fear the Lord,
were not interested in my counsel,
and rejected all my correction,
they will eat the fruit of their way
and be glutted with their own schemes.
For the turning away of the inexperienced will kill them,
and the complacency of fools will destroy them.

I wonder why a religion would stigmatize pride and knowledge? Could it be that in order for the religion work, its followers have to be stupid and act in an unquestioning subservient manner? After all, poking around in the Bible leaves it full of holes.

God gave me a capable brain and the punishes me for using it. What a dick.



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21-11-2013, 11:35 PM
RE: An atheist's critique of the Bible (Book and eBook now available)
(21-11-2013 08:12 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  It's also filled with more humor and less scripture.

A promising trend Tongue Wish they'd do this with the Bible. Congrats on publishing your new book Smile

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26-11-2013, 05:22 PM
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08-12-2013, 03:50 PM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2013 03:57 PM by Alla.)
RE: An atheist's critique of the Bible (Book and eBook now available)
(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  First off, I'm skipping the whole "how were plants created before light/photosynthesis, how was light created before the sun, contradictions of which was created first" word games. Those take up too much time and words and pie.
Moses never said that light was created. Sun is not the only source of light.
Other stars are sources of light. Did Moses say where Earth was before Solar system was created? in what part of Universe?
Is there light where there is God? God is Light, says the Bible. He is also on of the sources of light. So are you.

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -The moon is not a light, it is a reflection of the sun's light. This is the first of many examples that suggest that God's omnipotence seems to be limited to the knowledge of the demographics and time period of when the Bible was written. Strange.
When in the dark night I go outside and full Moon lights my way Moon is source of light for me. May be this is what Moses meant? Moon is not direct source of light but it may be called as source of light.

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"
-Our? Just how many gods are there?
We don't know. May be infinity?
(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -2:2 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made."
-even though they say that God only "rested" to set an example of how would should rest on the 7th day, couldn't the Bible just say "rest on Sunday" ??(question mark)? It clearly says God rested, which means that this all-powerful being was worn out from all those valleys and hills and Wyoming and platypuses.
Or may be He needed this time for reflection?

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -
The Garden and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil

-Sooooo... God takes these 2 newly formed, ignorant to life humans, puts them in a garden with a tree bearing food, nonchalantly goes "don't eat from it" ... then leaves... to go make Venus, I guess. And you know the rest.
So... WHY did he put them near the tree? WHY did he have that which he didn't want humans to attain be edible and tempting? WHY did he leave? WHY did he allow Satan the Snake to be in the garden, knowing full well that he would tempt them? Why did God design these 2 humans to be susceptible to temptation?
May be because it was part of His plan?

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -Then God comes strolling by (3:8 "walking in the garden in the cool of the day") at the PRECISE moment after they eat the fruit and goes "whoa whoa, what's going on here?" (I'm paraphrasing, of course)
Or to give them new instructions?

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -
So it's quite obvious to me that God WANTED man to F up royally.
Exactly. He really wanted that to happen.

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  - God created man with the sole purpose of imposing "original sin" upon him,
so that he may feel guilty and grovel and ask forgiveness for something that wasn't his fault for all eternity.
Not at all. Plan is very different

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -Cain slays Abel and is "cast out" arbitrarily from one remote location of this empty world to another random remote location. Then he worries that "every one that findeth me shall slay me."
Only God can punish Cain. Curse of Cain(mark) is not the reason for others to hate him and to wish evil to another human being.

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  --This is a strange worry since he is 1 of 3 people in existence. Then he sleeps with his wife to start the incestual chain of humanity... but where did his wife come from?
Who says that there were only three people. Did Moses say that Abel and Cain were the very first children?

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days"
-I'm assuming these are literal giants and not "intellectual giants" or some modern term.[/quote]
May be very tall people?


(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -Then the Lord decides that all humanity is corrupt and needs to be massacred via flood.
They were corrupted. What do you do with evil people who kill their children and molest their children? and have sex with animals and teach their children all those ugly things?

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  --One... why the need for an elaborate flood?
Earth was polluted. It had to be cleansed and have new beginning. It had to be baptized by water. It is hard to understand this principle for a person who doesn't know Gospel.

(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  -Why not just use your God powers and make every one not exist?
Moses never said that God creates something out of nothing. There is no such thing.
I will stop for right now. I don't want to make very long post.
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10-12-2013, 02:03 PM
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(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(04-04-2011 02:35 AM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  First off, I'm skipping the whole "how were plants created before light/photosynthesis, how was light created before the sun, contradictions of which was created first" word games. Those take up too much time and words and pie.
Moses never said that light was created.
Yes he did. It was done on the first day, according to Genesis 1:

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."


You need to read up on your source material if you're going to make such strong claims.


(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Sun is not the only source of light.
Other stars are sources of light. Did Moses say where Earth was before Solar system was created? in what part of Universe?
According to Genesis 1, God created the plants on the third day, and the sun, the moon, and all the stars on the fourth day.

"11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day."


While stars are other sources of light (assuming the earth were, for some reason, in a different solar system), they still weren't around when there was vegetation.


(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Is there light where there is God? God is Light, says the Bible.


Well, again, Gen 1:1 says it was dark and God had to create the light, so regardless of whether or not God radiates actual light, it's irrelevant. Also, it'd doubtful that he does (at least not all the time), because the Bible posits that God is among us, and we are capable of turning out the lights and not seeing him.


(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  He is also on of the sources of light. So are you.

You're mixing and matching your terms of light. You can't refer to "light" as in what plants need to survive and then switch to using "light" to mean "sources of virtue" or whatever symbolic sense you mean. We obviously, observably do not glow in the dark.


That is as far as I got through that post.
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10-12-2013, 03:59 PM
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10-12-2013, 04:17 PM
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(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Moses never said that light was created.
Yes he did. It was done on the first day, according to Genesis 1:

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."


You need to read up on your source material if you're going to make such strong claims.
I do read it. Moses didn't say that light was created.
Let's say I see a dark room (earth was in dark place) and say:"Let there be light" and bring in candle or turn on the switch. Did I create light? Was there no light before I said "let there be light"?
What if God placed earth to a place where there was light? What if He used another source of light? Moses didn't say anything, did he?


(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Sun is not the only source of light.
Other stars are sources of light. Did Moses say where Earth was before Solar system was created? in what part of Universe?
According to Genesis 1, God created the plants on the third day, and the sun, the moon, and all the stars on the fourth day.
Yes, but light was on Earth on first day. This light was from the source that Moses didn't describe.
(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(08-12-2013 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Is there light where there is God? God is Light, says the Bible.


Well, again, Gen 1:1 says it was dark and God had to create the light, so regardless of whether or not God radiates actual light, it's irrelevant. Also, it'd doubtful that he does (at least not all the time), because the Bible posits that God is among us, and we are capable of turning out the lights and not seeing him.
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You're mixing and matching your terms of light. You can't refer to "light" as in what plants need to survive and then switch to using "light" to mean "sources of virtue" or whatever symbolic sense you mean. We obviously, observably do not glow in the dark.
I prefer that Moses meant another source of light. But saying that I can also say:
1)God is LIGHT because He is source of TRUE KNOWLEDGE.
True knowledge is light(symbolism)
2)God is literally source of light. No man can be close to God(see God) and live. It is too dangerous for mortal man.
No mortal man can be too close to Sun and live, it is too dangerous.
To your point that God lived among us. But Bible says that when He(God Son and not God Heavenly Father) lived on this Earth He didn't have fathers glory, His body didn't have light that Father has(literally)

(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  That is as far as I got through that post.
Good enough for me

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11-12-2013, 11:21 PM
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(10-12-2013 04:17 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Yes he did. It was done on the first day, according to Genesis 1:

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."


You need to read up on your source material if you're going to make such strong claims.
I do read it. Moses didn't say that light was created.
Let's say I see a dark room (earth was in dark place) and say:"Let there be light" and bring in candle or turn on the switch. Did I create light? Was there no light before I said "let there be light"?
What if God placed earth to a place where there was light? What if He used another source of light? Moses didn't say anything, did he?


(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  According to Genesis 1, God created the plants on the third day, and the sun, the moon, and all the stars on the fourth day.
Yes, but light was on Earth on first day. This light was from the source that Moses didn't describe.
(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Well, again, Gen 1:1 says it was dark and God had to create the light, so regardless of whether or not God radiates actual light, it's irrelevant. Also, it'd doubtful that he does (at least not all the time), because the Bible posits that God is among us, and we are capable of turning out the lights and not seeing him.
.......................
You're mixing and matching your terms of light. You can't refer to "light" as in what plants need to survive and then switch to using "light" to mean "sources of virtue" or whatever symbolic sense you mean. We obviously, observably do not glow in the dark.
I prefer that Moses meant another source of light. But saying that I can also say:
1)God is LIGHT because He is source of TRUE KNOWLEDGE.
True knowledge is light(symbolism)
2)God is literally source of light. No man can be close to God(see God) and live. It is too dangerous for mortal man.
No mortal man can be too close to Sun and live, it is too dangerous.
To your point that God lived among us. But Bible says that when He(God Son and not God Heavenly Father) lived on this Earth He didn't have fathers glory, His body didn't have light that Father has(literally)

(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  That is as far as I got through that post.
Good enough for me

"Moses" didn't say anything, because "Moses" didn't exist.

Do you want to argue about how Harry Potter got his scar now?

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12-12-2013, 12:38 PM
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(11-12-2013 11:21 PM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  "Moses" didn't say anything, because "Moses" didn't exist.

Do you want to argue about how Harry Potter got his scar now?
No, I don't want to argue with you about Moses and I don't want to argue with you about Harry Potter. I can only argue with you about what is said in the book of Genesis.Smile

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12-12-2013, 05:06 PM
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(10-12-2013 04:17 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(10-12-2013 02:03 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Yes he did. It was done on the first day, according to Genesis 1:

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."


You need to read up on your source material if you're going to make such strong claims.
I do read it. Moses didn't say that light was created.
Let's say I see a dark room (earth was in dark place) and say:"Let there be light" and bring in candle or turn on the switch. Did I create light? Was there no light before I said "let there be light"?
What if God placed earth to a place where there was light? What if He used another source of light? Moses didn't say anything, did he?
It's very convenient to have the benefit of hindsight. Moses didn't know about the universe. When Genesis was written, the earth and sky were all anyone knew about. That's why it says "In the beginning, God created the heavens and earth" - because the heavens was the sky and earth and sky were everything. The intention of that passage was in the beginning (of everything), God created everything which at first was the earth and heavens. Light did not yet exist anywhere. So when God said "Let there be light", he created it right then. If you're going to believe in something, you really should understand it. Dodgy

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