An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
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01-06-2017, 04:28 AM
An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
I still sneak in some water and food. And I live in Lebanon, so it is now hot.
Ramadan is the 9th month and considered special, where Muslims have to fast from dusk till sunset, they abstain from food, water, tobacco, and sex. And muslims get closer to Allah, by praying and reading more and doing charity.
And right now in Lebanon the weather is becoming hotter, and without water people get dehydrated especially during hot weather, I had a few friends and acquaintances who had been hospitalized during ramadan.
At work, my boss and coworkers are islamists, so I have to fake fast or else it will cost me my job, and I can't sneak in water or food, I try to go out during my break and go to a non-muslim mini mart to buy bottled water and some snacks to help me be more productive at work.
Productivity decreases in ramadan, time becomes significantly slower and the fastest thing I see is reckless drivers heading for iftar.
At home, my mom is less religious than my dad, and if I break my fast she is usually okay with it and sometimes she breaks her fast, but my dad nags a lot.
Thankfully Lebanon has a 35% Christian population 55% Muslim 5% druze, atheism and agnosticism are on the rise in Lebanon so we have no islamic laws enforced during ramadan, most restaurants are open throughout the day, unlike other Islamic countries where people who don't fast openly are jailed and can sometimes be deadly.
In Lebanon, the likelihood of terrorist attacks by Daesh or Al Qaeda increases.
In 2014 or 2012 Northen Lebanon, islamists threw a grenade at a restaurant or cafe during ramadan.
At iftar (when Muslims break their fast) they gorge on multiple platters in starvation quickly, which is harmful to the digestive system, and they wake up in the dusk to eat before engaging their fast, causing morning heartburn and weight gain.
Because of fasting I am having slight headaches, but I always try to stay hydrated and have a small snack to alleviate it.
This is what it's like to be an ex-muslim atheist during ramadan.
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01-06-2017, 04:38 AM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
Not to mention how grumpy everyone gets.

"Oh! I'm so hungry!"
"So eat something."
"I can't, it's Ramadan."
"Oh yeah, sorry. So this is the time for empathising with those who are suffering, right?"
"Yes"
"Tell me again how hungry you are."

^^^
Actual conversation in the office last year.
(before I bought cake for the other non-Muslims)

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01-06-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
Fasting in the day and then pigging out at night isn't much of a sacrifice and it obviously doesn't help anyone.
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01-06-2017, 05:47 AM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
(01-06-2017 04:54 AM)ImFred Wrote:  Fasting in the day and then pigging out at night isn't much of a sacrifice and it obviously doesn't help anyone.
Ritual (it doesn't matter really what it is) directs the believer to recall the relevant tenets of the faith. This particular ritual also creates a huge shared experience to bind the adherent to all other adherents. As the OP points out, if you are the majority religion, it even obliges non-adherents to pretend adherence, and marginal adherents to pretend more devotion than they actually possess.

So it serves a perfectly valid and rather potent purpose -- for the faith, anyway.
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01-06-2017, 06:57 AM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
Do followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster observe Ramendan?
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01-06-2017, 09:23 AM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
(01-06-2017 05:47 AM)mordant Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 04:54 AM)ImFred Wrote:  Fasting in the day and then pigging out at night isn't much of a sacrifice and it obviously doesn't help anyone.
Ritual (it doesn't matter really what it is) directs the believer to recall the relevant tenets of the faith. This particular ritual also creates a huge shared experience to bind the adherent to all other adherents. As the OP points out, if you are the majority religion, it even obliges non-adherents to pretend adherence, and marginal adherents to pretend more devotion than they actually possess.

So it serves a perfectly valid and rather potent purpose -- for the faith, anyway.

That's interesting. I think rituals have some sort of psychological effect on us.There are rituals for birth , special events, marriage, death etc. Why do we perform rituals ?[both religious and non-religious]
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01-06-2017, 09:30 AM
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(01-06-2017 09:23 AM)sea_tiger Wrote:  That's interesting. I think rituals have some sort of psychological effect on us.There are rituals for birth , special events, marriage, death etc. Why do we perform rituals ?[both religious and non-religious]


Biology. Loads of animals have rituals, including death rituals.

Nothing magical, sacred or untouchable about them. A whole lot of crap in a lot of them, though. But hey, that's how my (animal) ancestors used to do things, so let's stick to it, even if it makes no sense or is even harmful in modern-day society Drinking Beverage

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01-06-2017, 02:02 PM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
(01-06-2017 04:28 AM)Ibrahim95128 Wrote:  I still sneak in some water and food...

.. This is what it's like to be an ex-muslim atheist during ramadan.

I'm sorry (and angry) that you have to go through this sort of bullshit Ibrahim, and I'm hoping you're surviving okay mate, take care. Thumbsup

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01-06-2017, 02:34 PM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
I don't know much about regulations during ramadan but don't you get some relaxation for medical issues?
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01-06-2017, 02:45 PM
RE: An ex-muslim fasting ramadan.
(01-06-2017 09:23 AM)sea_tiger Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 05:47 AM)mordant Wrote:  Ritual (it doesn't matter really what it is) directs the believer to recall the relevant tenets of the faith. This particular ritual also creates a huge shared experience to bind the adherent to all other adherents. As the OP points out, if you are the majority religion, it even obliges non-adherents to pretend adherence, and marginal adherents to pretend more devotion than they actually possess.

So it serves a perfectly valid and rather potent purpose -- for the faith, anyway.

That's interesting. I think rituals have some sort of psychological effect on us.There are rituals for birth , special events, marriage, death etc. Why do we perform rituals ?[both religious and non-religious]
Because at root, our minds deal in symbols, and rituals are highly symbolic.

This is why it can be cathartic to write a letter to unburden yourself to someone about how they hurt or abused you. Even if you don't mail it. Even if they're dead. Even if you burn it afterwards -- and that last is yet another symbol, that you're done with the subject.

Your subconscious mind obeys suggestions and responds to symbols.
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