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17-12-2012, 02:39 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(16-12-2012 07:13 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Not sure what the comment means, but I'll wear it with pride anyways! Thumbsup
It means he's so brilliant, he has confused you and Chas (and possibly me Laughat ). The jail thing was from a completely unrelated (albeit equally idiotic) discussion.

Oh, he has outshone us all right. But not in the way he seems to think he has...

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17-12-2012, 03:09 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(16-12-2012 11:24 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Alright, this is just getting old. FZU, stop being a child and neg repping everyone that criticizes you. So what if you have a better life than most people. That's like saying white people are better than black people because you have a better life, it does not follow.

Humans are omnivores, they can consume both meat and plant material. Frankly, no one gives a shit that Vegans are healthier than no vegans because that's not the debate topic. If you can't handle the fact that you are wrong, Gtfo.

I neg rep, those that neg rep me - is self defence hard to understand?

White people are better than black people statistically speaking, in general white societies have been way more successful than blacks, as to the reason why - it's complicated, but you socialists scream racist whenever the elephant in the room is even brought up.

What you consume to make you healthy is natural by definition. So plant material is more natural than meat for humans, ergo we are herbivores more so than omnivores that could eat both food entities as much as the animal cares for.
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17-12-2012, 03:15 AM (This post was last modified: 17-12-2012 04:19 AM by Vera.)
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 03:09 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
White people are better than black people statistically speaking, in general white societies have been way more successful than blacks, as to the reason why - it's complicated, but you socialists scream racist whenever the elephant in the room is even brought up.
You don't belong here or with normal people. Why don't you just go to a neo-nazi forum, they'd love you there and for once you might have someone on the same level as you! Level of self-delusion and intellectual (in)capacity.

EDIT: Let me clarify something, because you seem to confuse things a lot. It's not a question of like or dislike. You I couldn't care less about. But I (and a lot of people here) find your bigotry DEEPLY offensive.

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17-12-2012, 03:17 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 03:15 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 03:09 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
White people are better than black people statistically speaking, in general white societies have been way more successful than blacks, as to the reason why - it's complicated, but you socialists scream racist whenever the elephant in the room is even brought up.
You don't belong here or with normal people. Why don't you just go to a neo-nazi forum, they'd love you there and for once you might have someone on the same level as you! Level of self-delusion and intellectual (in)capacity.
Exactly, this is why I don't like asking about it. So I won't say anything more on the matter.
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17-12-2012, 03:18 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
On a forum, where everybody is welcome no matter what their views, who has a theist as a moderator.... you wonder why we neg rep you?

Of course.... its because we are all at fault and its nothing to do with you.

You live in a bubble FZU. Your young though so I really hope one day for your sake you learn to appreciate other peoples views. After all they broaden our own understanding of life.

EDIT: Look around, how many other people are in negative rep territory?

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17-12-2012, 07:13 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 03:09 AM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(16-12-2012 11:24 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Alright, this is just getting old. FZU, stop being a child and neg repping everyone that criticizes you. So what if you have a better life than most people. That's like saying white people are better than black people because you have a better life, it does not follow.

Humans are omnivores, they can consume both meat and plant material. Frankly, no one gives a shit that Vegans are healthier than no vegans because that's not the debate topic. If you can't handle the fact that you are wrong, Gtfo.

I neg rep, those that neg rep me - is self defence hard to understand?

White people are better than black people statistically speaking, in general white societies have been way more successful than blacks, as to the reason why - it's complicated, but you socialists scream racist whenever the elephant in the room is even brought up.

What you consume to make you healthy is natural by definition. So plant material is more natural than meat for humans, ergo we are herbivores more so than omnivores that could eat both food entities as much as the animal cares for.
Neg repping is not self defense. Tell me how neg reps are hurting you, and how you feel you are justified in reciprocating. They actually have good criticisms, you neg repped them back because you are a child and can't take the fact that your views are seen as wrong, and you did a horrible job proving it was right.

I was talking about individuals, not societies.

Toothbrushes and toothpaste are healthy for you, does that mean that humans were evolved for toothbrushes and toothpaste? Nope. Tell me, Fazer, do you have to take vitamins?

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17-12-2012, 09:05 AM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(16-12-2012 11:24 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Alright, this is just getting old. FZU, stop being a child and neg repping everyone that criticizes you. So what if you have a better life than most people. That's like saying white people are better than black people because you have a better life, it does not follow.

Humans are omnivores, they can consume both meat and plant material. Frankly, no one gives a shit that Vegans are healthier than no vegans because that's not the debate topic. If you can't handle the fact that you are wrong, Gtfo.
There is not even compelling evidence for his conclusion on health. All is arguments are endless non sequiturs and baseless assertions.

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17-12-2012, 09:15 AM
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My first negative rep...WOhooo. My only BEEF with it is that he repped me for saying he should be in jail for his views, I don't recall having eves said any such thing. If you are going to neg me, at least get your reasons straight. I could car less if you put a red 1 next to my name on here, I won't lose any sleep over it. Drinking Beverage

Now, where did I put that "ignore" function at on here...oh yea...here we go, and done.

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17-12-2012, 09:20 AM
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(17-12-2012 09:05 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(16-12-2012 11:24 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Alright, this is just getting old. FZU, stop being a child and neg repping everyone that criticizes you. So what if you have a better life than most people. That's like saying white people are better than black people because you have a better life, it does not follow.

Humans are omnivores, they can consume both meat and plant material. Frankly, no one gives a shit that Vegans are healthier than no vegans because that's not the debate topic. If you can't handle the fact that you are wrong, Gtfo.
There is not even compelling evidence for his conclusion on health. All is arguments are endless non sequiturs and baseless assertions.
I had a look myself on the net Logica to try and understand where he was coming from. Out of all the ones I read I think this article gives a good balanced view for both sides of the arguement.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872...11182.html


Id summarise that we have evolved this way over however many years and that we need/depend on nutrients from both sources (meat and plant life)

Theoretically I would say that as long as Fuzzy is getting all of the nutrients he needs from his diet then it is a healthy one. I wouldnt say it is superior though as life longevity comes under many different factors (exercise, genetics etc etc)

For no matter how much I use these symbols, to describe symptoms of my existence.
You are your own emphasis.
So I say nothing.

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17-12-2012, 09:21 AM
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(17-12-2012 09:15 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  My first negative rep...WOhooo. My only BEEF with it is that he repped me for saying he should be in jail for his views, I don't recall having eves said any such thing. If you are going to neg me, at least get your reasons straight. I could car less if you put a red 1 next to my name on here, I won't lose any sleep over it. Drinking Beverage

Now, where did I put that "ignore" function at on here...oh yea...here we go, and done.
See my answer to Stark for the jail thing. He just copies and pastes his "incisive rep comments".

Also I suspect a bit of projecting may be going on - he may want to see us in jail (or even in Siberia, as this is what socialist scum like us deserve).

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