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17-12-2012, 05:45 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 05:03 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 04:16 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Tell me, do you think sexism and racism are right?
No, of course not. As it stands Africa is having major issues, most importantly civil wars and general violence. African Americans were also brought to this country by slavery, I'm on there side, I think it's terrible and it is such a tragedy that the huge resources and human potential in some of Africa's poorest nations are paralysed by violence. Aliko Dangote is actually one of my idols for prospering and innovating commodities in Africa.

Sexism? When did I speak about that? If you are talking about men and women being equal well, they aren't the same- men and women are different entities with positives and weaknesses that compliment each other as nature intended, and I'm not just speaking about naughty bits. Male and female personalities get along very well, they're just not the same.
Both are condemned social faux pas, and generally sexists and racists are despised in society and the general public. So, please, I'd love to hear you continue your pathetic personal justification for your asinine opinions.

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17-12-2012, 05:49 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 05:24 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 05:08 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  Example: Chas---> known for being terse and deadly and sometime a bit grumpy, but makes good points and is willing to see both sides of an argument; has positive rep.

Fzumedia----> known for ignoring or misrepresenting arguments. Grumpy, but lacks the cunning to be terse and deadly; has negative rep.

Xino----> random poster, tries to avoid confrontation (unless its autism); has moderate positive rep.



Just adding to what chas said.

I lean towards making arguments where I don't need to be an expert on every topic and know every study and chart ready for reference- I can do the job just as effectively with basic logic to simplify issues. I've tried being the research hound before in my debating career, and it is more stressful than what the rewards are.

How someone arguing a similar position would make a case: "Here is, x, y, z research showing why having no minimum wage or lower minimum wage would be better for the economy".

How I argue: "If I want to work in a factory for $5 an hour, why are you stopping me?".

Although sometimes research and quoted data is necessary, It's just important to establish fundamentals and morality before going into any conversation with someone.


Translation: I am too lazy to research facts so I will continue pulling arbitrary figures out of my ass, labeling them as well-known facts, and persisting in constant delusion when documented research and reliable citation proves me wrong.

Kid, Fox News would love you.

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17-12-2012, 06:05 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 05:49 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 05:24 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  I lean towards making arguments where I don't need to be an expert on every topic and know every study and chart ready for reference- I can do the job just as effectively with basic logic to simplify issues. I've tried being the research hound before in my debating career, and it is more stressful than what the rewards are.

How someone arguing a similar position would make a case: "Here is, x, y, z research showing why having no minimum wage or lower minimum wage would be better for the economy".

How I argue: "If I want to work in a factory for $5 an hour, why are you stopping me?".

Although sometimes research and quoted data is necessary, It's just important to establish fundamentals and morality before going into any conversation with someone.


Translation: I am too lazy to research facts so I will continue pulling arbitrary figures out of my ass, labeling them as well-known facts, and persisting in constant delusion when documented research and reliable citation proves me wrong.

Kid, Fox News would love you.
That's okay, but at least I am not pointing guns at people like you socialists.


That channel is undeniably statist/biased, but I think they have excellent coverage on some topics.
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17-12-2012, 06:07 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:05 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  That's okay, but at least I am not pointing guns at people like you socialists.

What the actual fuck does that even mean?

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17-12-2012, 06:09 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:07 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 06:05 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  That's okay, but at least I am not pointing guns at people like you socialists.

What the actual fuck does that even mean?
You told me I should be thrown in jail. So don't talk to me.
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17-12-2012, 06:10 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:09 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 06:07 PM)Chas Wrote:  What the actual fuck does that even mean?
You told me I should be thrown in jail. So don't talk to me.
Really? When did I do that? I suggested you obey the law.

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17-12-2012, 06:11 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:10 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 06:09 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  You told me I should be thrown in jail. So don't talk to me.
Really? When did I do that? I suggested you obey the law.
There's no such thing as law when one man's extortion is another man's taxation as long as you are wearing a blue costume.
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17-12-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:05 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 05:49 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Translation: I am too lazy to research facts so I will continue pulling arbitrary figures out of my ass, labeling them as well-known facts, and persisting in constant delusion when documented research and reliable citation proves me wrong.

Kid, Fox News would love you.
That's okay, but at least I am not pointing guns at people like you socialists.


That channel is undeniably statist/biased, but I think they have excellent coverage on some topics.
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17-12-2012, 06:37 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:11 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 06:10 PM)Chas Wrote:  Really? When did I do that? I suggested you obey the law.
There's no such thing as law when one man's extortion is another man's taxation as long as you are wearing a blue costume.


Taxes are the price of civilization. You pay your share because you reap the benefit.

If you don't like it, then don't participate.

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17-12-2012, 06:51 PM
RE: Animal Consciousness and Meat
(17-12-2012 06:37 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-12-2012 06:11 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  There's no such thing as law when one man's extortion is another man's taxation as long as you are wearing a blue costume.


Taxes are the price of civilization. You pay your share because you reap the benefit.

If you don't like it, then don't participate.
It is inflicted on me whether I like it or not because I happened to be born where the G-mafia has base in. 'Participate' is the wrong word, since it implies voluntarism for which it is involuntary. 'Comply' is a better word.
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