Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
28-04-2013, 08:22 AM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(28-04-2013 05:44 AM)Gaest Wrote:  I have no problem with animal sacrifices, and I have even participated in a few.
But I´m not really cool about the force feeding - I wouldn´t want to participate in a sacrifice or another ceremony involving that.

So there is an old saying that it’s better to have short, sharp pains than long, dull pains.

Want something? Then do something.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
28-04-2013, 09:59 AM (This post was last modified: 28-04-2013 11:41 AM by Jedah.)
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(28-04-2013 01:29 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  
(27-04-2013 11:43 PM)Jedah Wrote:  Does the part of force feeding until pig's stomach explode in order to win the contest also okay for you??? Besides, in the name of "tradition", we can basically do anything we want, cant we? "Traditionally", we eat dog meat & monkey brain ,we consider women as a property, etc...

The logic of kill to worship a veggie diety (Master Qingshui) is also confuses me. Perhaps people just need an excuse for pig slaughtering. On the other hand, when it was criticized by animal protection groups, the shield they used was "religious freedom"...

By the way, Master Qingshui is a taoist diety not buddhist one.

If okay is not appropriate, I would say tolerable. People won contest by force feeding themselves with hamburgers until their stomachs are gonna explode. And this is tradition too.


If traditions don't violate laws, we couldn't just tell them to stop could we? Besides traditions have ranges. I don't think eating dog meat & monkey brain is widely accepted as part of the tradition. At least I've never heard anyone of my family ever did that. So definitely not of my family tradition.

The animal protection groups should lobby the lawmaker into banning this kind of deeds by law. It is a better and possibly more effective way, isn't it?

I didn't know that Master Qingshui is a taoist deity, but I knew he was a real person and a real Buddhist monk born in the Northern Song Dynasty. So that's another place it is weird, isn't it?

1. Is "people feeding themselves" & "force feeding pigs" the same case???? You r joking, right?
2. The tradition changes when people become more CIVILIZED. I dont know about your family tradition or how much you know about Taiwanese/Chinese traditions, but I can tell you eating dog meat/monkey brain was widely accepted/tolerable back to at least 50 years ago (which is why I called it "tradition").
3. Like I said, believers use "religious freedom" as shield. In Taiwan, no politician would dare to touch religious issue.
4. It's kinda hard to explain how buddhist/taoist can sometimes be mixed in Taiwanese folk belief system. Perhaps idolatrous polytheism doesnt require much classification.Big Grin

Life is too important to be taken seriously.
- Oscar Wilde
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
28-04-2013, 10:30 AM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(28-04-2013 01:29 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  If traditions don't violate laws, we couldn't just tell them to stop could we?

So you need that some random people decide that feeding animals to death is against the law in order to consider the very fact as wrong? No

DISCLAIMER: If you find a message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a message, complain to me and I will be happy to demonstrate.

[Image: tta.php]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes KVron's post
29-04-2013, 06:43 AM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(28-04-2013 05:44 AM)Gaest Wrote:  
(27-04-2013 05:27 AM)Jedah Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_Dzu

I didnt aware this has English version on Wiki before.

My sister went to the Qingshui Zushi's Festival once. She told me that some of pigs died from stomach blew due to the force feeding before weighing.

I have no problem with animal sacrifices, and I have even participated in a few.
But I´m not really cool about the force feeding - I wouldn´t want to participate in a sacrifice or another ceremony involving that.

You're in favor of pointlessly killing animals? Consider

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
[Image: flagstiny%206.gif]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
29-04-2013, 07:35 AM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(28-04-2013 10:30 AM)KVron Wrote:  
(28-04-2013 01:29 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  If traditions don't violate laws, we couldn't just tell them to stop could we?

So you need that some random people decide that feeding animals to death is against the law in order to consider the very fact as wrong? No

Hey, shouldn't you people be telling me this or that is somebody's freedom and respect it, since I am the one from an 'authoratative' country ?

And I used the hamburger contest example as a joke indeed.

XD

Tongue

Want something? Then do something.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-05-2013, 02:19 PM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(29-04-2013 06:43 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-04-2013 05:44 AM)Gaest Wrote:  I have no problem with animal sacrifices, and I have even participated in a few.
But I´m not really cool about the force feeding - I wouldn´t want to participate in a sacrifice or another ceremony involving that.

You're in favor of pointlessly killing animals? Consider

No.
Pointless from your point of view?... Probably.
You might find some of the traditions, where the meat is eaten at a feast, shared among the participants or something similar, less pointless.

As with the force feeding: I´m not in favour of traditions where the animal suffer - beyond a fairly quick kill.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-05-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(27-04-2013 10:35 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  
(27-04-2013 10:30 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  Were they Capitalist Pigs?

That's really an old-fashioned term which I never used and barely heard in my life time.

Yeah, it better. China's fickle conglomeration of economic and governance is slowly but surely encroaching a capitalistic system.

[Image: Untitled-2.png?_subject_uid=322943157&am...Y7Dzq4lJog]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-05-2013, 04:12 PM
RE: Animal Sacrifice in my country (Taiwan)
(01-05-2013 02:44 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(27-04-2013 10:35 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  That's really an old-fashioned term which I never used and barely heard in my life time.

Yeah, it better. China's fickle conglomeration of economic and governance is slowly but surely encroaching a capitalistic system.

And since Roosevelt, the U.S. economic system has been drifting away from liberal capitalism and monopoly capitalism, with Obama described as a socialist tyrant. So ... different path, same destination ? Consider

Want something? Then do something.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes HU.Junyuan's post
Post Reply
Forum Jump: